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From: Woody (woodyTHEBUNKER.NET)
Date: Tue Mar 06 2001 - 18:45:22 CST

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    Darren Reed wrote:
    >
    > In some mail from Woody, sie said:
    > >
    > > Subject: Loopback and multi-homed routing flaw in TCP/IP stack.
    > > Author: Woody <woodythebunker.net>
    > >
    > > We believe there to be a serious security flaw in the TCP/IP stack of
    > > several Unix-like operating systems. Whilst being "known" behavior on
    > > technical mailing lists, we feel that the implications of this
    > > "feature" are unexpected. Furthermore, not all platforms behave in the
    > > same way, which will obviously lead to invalid expectations.
    > >
    > > PLEASE NOTE: We have received a lot of replies to this advisory from
    > > developers who have missed the point. Before you reply, please
    > > read the advisory at least twice, to ensure you understand its
    > > implications, and scope.
    >
    [snip]
    > The other part of your advisory is the argument that IP addresses on
    > an interface should not be reachable, by default, through others because
    > people bind things to particular interfaces for security reasons and
    > that people would be surprised to find out it's not like that. Well,
    > any admin who's setup something like that and gone on to not test his
    > configuration is being careless. The expectation of implied filtering
    > of packets is an illusion created by that person for themselves. I've
    > not read anywhere that the behaviour is documented to be such. Your
    > claim that this is wrong is just your opinion and typically security
    > advisories are based on factual security flaws, not opinions. The
    > security problem here is in people not testing "security" they think
    > they have put in place.

    Yes, `people not testing "security" they think they have put in place'
    is a valid point, to an extent. However, when people test their systems,
    they test the things that they deem to be within the realms of
    possibility.
    A machine which has routing turned off, is not _expected_ to route, so
    it
    is not tested for.
    This is the point of this advisory, which is commonly
    missed.

    Woody