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> 3) (ISC)^2 and SANS do not get along. I do not think this is
> valid, as every
> public indication I've seen from SANS indicates that they are
> above such
> pettiness. If they counted and published GIAC certs and not
> CISSP's then
> this could be believed.

They do not get along.

My personal belief is that this is related to the strong personalities of
the individuals involved, but whatever the reason, there is a relatively
high lack of animosity/low level of cooperation between SANS, CSI, ISSA,
ISC2, etc. I think that all of these organizations perceive themselves as
fighting for a limited pool of dollars. This competition is probably to our
detriment, although a certain amount of competition may improve the breed.

Again, my personal opinion holds that the current state of infosec art is
only one step above witchcraft and anything we can do to make it more
professional is to our benefit and to the benefit of those who consider
themselves professionals.

As individuals, we don't need to choose sides. However, as well-informed,
external observers, I suggest apply a 'bias test' whenever you encounter
something from either SANS or ISC2. Consider the possibility that the
communicator has an agenda that includes reducing the relative strength of
the other program--I think sometimes you'll see consistent patterns.

I don't mean to start a fight, and I am not passing out blame. My point is
just that a non-productive situation exists today, and that if those of us
who are affected can recognize it, we can fix it.

Jay Heiser

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