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From: kwelch@dfamilk.com
Date: Thu Oct 25 2001 - 17:00:45 CDT

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    I've been looking for materials to use to prepare for the CISSP exam and am
    finding mixed opinions on what is good and what isn't. I've read about an
    equal number of positive and negative reviews for the HISM book. What
    gives? Is the HISM something I can count on to prepare me for the exam
    (and I realize that no single book will do this, I also have the SRV books
    vol. 1&2) or not? I'm considering the purchase of the CISSP Exam Prep book
    too. Hypothetically speaking, if you could only get one more book, would
    it be the HISM, or the CISSP Exam Prep?

    Everyone's comments would be appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Kent Welch

                                                                                                                      
                        "Johann van
                        Duyn" To: CISSPStudy_1@yahoogroups.com, CISSPSTUDY@securityfocus.com
                        <Johann_van_Duy cc:
                        n@bat.com> Subject: Some thoughts on the exam in Auckland Park, South Africa
                                                                                                                      
                        10/22/2001
                        06:05 AM
                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                      

    Hi there...

    About 30 people (if I counted correctly) wrote the exam, which is pretty
    good, this being only the second time that the exam has been hosted in
    South Africa. SACS is considering hosting the exam in Cape Town next year,
    if sufficient people are interested in writing here.

    In the final stages, I mainly used the following guides and resources:
    - HISM 4th ed., vols 1 and 2 (vol. 3 also available now)
    - HISM 3rd ed., online at www.cccure.org
    - CISSP Open Study Guide at www.cccure.org (still the best, and it's free.
    Go figure.)
    - SRV vols 1 and 2 (many errors, but essentially a good-ish guide)
    - CISSP Exam Prep (good-looking guide, but don't let it fool you: you need
    to study far beyond it!)
    - Secured Computing (not too hot... same caveat as above)

    However, I was glad to have read a lot further than the references noted
    above... believe me, you really do need to.

    I felt that the study guides can be misleading, and could lead to a false
    sense of security going into the exam. They miss out badly in the breadth
    as well as the depth senses of the exam's scope. Use them as a guide, but
    don't rely solely on them: you WILL be sorry if you do. The OSG is still
    the best in terms of depth and breadth, but even then you need to read a
    lot wider than only study guides focused on the exam. The simple fact is,
    you need to UNDERSTAND each of the domains pretty well, and be rather
    well-read in them, to be able to answer the tougher questions. Best to do
    your reading with the (ISC)^2's CBK guide open on your desk.

    The CBK review hosted by SACS (www.sacs.co.za) was an excellent gauge of my
    exam readiness, and I would encourage anyone who possibly can, to attend
    such a course. You won't learn all the theory you need in order to pass
    (that could easily fill a one-year university course!), but you will get an
    indication of where you need to spend more time and effort in the last few
    weeks leading to the exam.

    I found the test fair, but pretty tough due to the sheer volume of it.
    After about four hours, it can get pretty difficult for the eyes to focus
    on the question paper, and it can be very easy to misread the more complex
    questions. Caveat: If you've been cramming, don't expect to recall much
    towards the end of the exam. :-)

    Do yourself a favour and take a day or two off from work before the exam to
    simply chill out, preferably without using artificial substances. :-) Sleep
    well the night before the exam, and think happy thoughts the morning of the
    exam. Avoid last-minute cramming, and don't talk to other candidates about
    the exam before entering the examination hall; it'll do more harm than
    good.

    During the exam, I took breaks every hour just to stretch my legs, have a
    smoke and move my body around a bit. It worked for me.

    After the exam I tried to get drunk, but was too tired to drink more than 3
    vodkas. :-(

    Sometime soon, I will post a few thoughts on how I would prepare for the
    exam if I were (let's hope not!) to do it all over again.

    See also my post dated 14/10/2001.

    Strength and honour.

    -----------------------------------------
    Johann van Duyn
    IT Risk and Security Manager: British American Tobacco South Africa
    Stellenbosch, South Africa
    Tel. +27 (21) 8883765
    Cel. +27 (82) 4588472
    Fax. +27 (21) 8838692
    E:mail: johann_van_duyn@bat.com
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    Hi Johan,

    What guides did you use?
    How many people are writing in JHB?

    Thanx
    Eric

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