Hi all I would like to comment on the CISSP awareness in Singapore.
I belive that the bigger banks and financial institutions are already aware
of the CISSP certifications in Singapore.
Unfortunately they do not really advertise for jobs that require them, in
the whole of 2001
I have only seen a single job offer that was for this certfication.

 I do agree that most companies view the certfication as benefitting the
employee not the company.
Unless it is a MNC, the attitude to developing Human Resources is medieval.
For example I have seen companies bonding people for 1 year for product
certfications,
and a poor friend of mine got bonded for 2.5 years after going for the SANS
course.

 And if your break the bond they will ask for 3 times the amount spent :)

I believe that the awareness is there, just that people are saving up for
this exam.

The situation is compounded by the lack of a company to bring down the event
to Singapore.
It would be simple to bring down the Exam to Singapore but the demand is
uncertain.
The recent SANs in Singapore only drew about 30 peeps for the GSEC
and 30 for the FW VPN.

 If there are people in this region who would like to bring take the CISSP
or SSCP exam in Singapore or KL
do share your thoughts and see if we could bring it down ourselves.
Else I would be like most flying to Korea for the exams :( another US 2 K

  With the release of the Monetary Authority Of Singapore Guidelines on
Ecommerce. There has been feverish efforts on all parties in the financial
communities to
upgrade their security standards with significant amounts of resources being
commited.

 The last thing about the CISSP etc being not widely known would be 2
things.
1.0 The stupid alternative lifestyle website that I go to by mistake :)
2.0 The cost of taking the CISSP exam.

 Lets look at the US 450 for the exam itself, it is actually in
Malaysian terms almost 2000 RM, 1.5 RM could get you a Chicken Burger from
McDonald. And typically a months pay for a professional in most cases.

 In Singapore the situation is still the same, US 450 would be half the
starting monthly
salary of a new computer science graduate.

2 cents

Don Ng
----- Original Message -----
From: <James.McGee@syntegra.com>
To: <loveshinobi@yahoo.com>; <DSEFF001@bmcjax.com>;
<CISSPSTUDY@securityfocus.com>; <andrewjw@singnet.com.sg>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 7:55 PM
Subject: RE: Spreading the awareness of CISSP

> I have just done a search on the "most" popular of IT recruitment sites in
> the UK.
>
> Guess what, I only found 1 Vacancy posted in the last 7 days. And that
was
> in Brussels!
>
> When I have mentioned the qualification in "security" circles, I mean
people
> who are actively involved in designing and implementing IT Security
> policies, and practices, most of them have never heard of it.
>
> I think ISC should take a while to promote the exam. I mean, Surely they
> are generating enough revenue through the review courses, and exam fees!
>
> Cheers
>
> ME
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: loveshinobi [mailto:loveshinobi@yahoo.com]
> Sent: 22 January 2002 01:36
> To: Danny Seffens; CISSPSTUDY@securityfocus.com;
> andrewjw@singnet.com.sg
> Subject: Re: Spreading the awareness of CISSP
>
> just saw this post so perhaps i'll chip in my 2 cents worth
> :)
>
> it is true that cissp awareness in singapore is lacking but
> do look at the
> bright side. a colleague who took it last july in singapore
> said that there
> were over a hundred candidates taking them... (not sure how
> true but then
> again why would he lie?). it was also the first time the
> paper was held in
> singapore. hopefully, they'll hold it again here this year
> cos i wanna take
> mine this year :P and if some of you do remember, about a
> year ago, there
> were only less than 5 people listed in isc2 website for
> singapore... now...
> it's more than 40 people...!!!
>
> btw, he was sponsored by my company (hopefully i'll be
> sponsored too this
> year) so i think tat the awareness though low... is
> spreading at a very
> rapid rate.
>
> cheers!
> shinobi
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Danny Seffens" <DSEFF001@bmcjax.com>
> To: <CISSPSTUDY@securityfocus.com>;
> <andrewjw@singnet.com.sg>
> Sent: Thursday, 17 January, 2002 8:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Spreading the awareness of CISSP
>
>
> Singapore isn't the only country where CISSP awareness is
> lacking. I passed
> my certification in November, and I've found since then that
> very few people
> outside the Infosec community know of the cert.
>
> I think there should be a lot more effort put toward
> marketing the cert and
> its value to the IT community as a whole.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Danny Seffens CISSP
>
>
> >>> "Andrew Chong" <andrewjw@singnet.com.sg> 01/16/02
> 09:43AM >>>
> Hi,
>
> I'm a Singaporean who has just got my CISSP 1 month ago on
> my first try.
> However I find that alot of Singaporeans are not aware of
> this
> certification. A few months ago, my VP of IT told us to
> think of a Core
> Competence Plus (CC+) topic which everyone need to do. I
> told my VP that I'd
> like to take the CISSP examination and this would be my CC+.
> Firstly, my VP
> don't know what is CISSP and have never heard of ISC2.
> Secondly, he told me
> that "This certification only benefit yourself and it
> doesn't benefit the
> company in any way". His answers didn't affect me in any
> way. I flew to
> HongKong with my friend to take the examination. Luckily, I
> pass but not for
> my friend...he got 696 points! 4 more marks to pass..how
> unfortunate.
>
> The question here is how can ISC2 spread the awarness of
> CISSP certification
> in Singapore or in other countries.
>
> Thank you
>
> Andrew Chong, CISSP
> Senior Systems Architect
>
>
>
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