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Subject: RE: Classified Crypto
From: Trei, Peter (ptreirsasecurity.com)
Date: Thu Oct 05 2000 - 09:53:44 CDT


It's been a (more or less unused) feature in SecurID for years,
I believe predating Fortezza.

Duress protocols are an old, old thing, and an example of subliminal
channels or steganography. Since usually only a single bit needs
to be transmitted, they are quite easy to set up, and difficult to
detect.

Peter Trei

> ----------
> From: Rich Salz[SMTP:rsalzcaveosystems.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:42 AM
> To: chris stillson
> Cc: coderpunkstoad.com
> Subject: Re: Classified Crypto
>
> > I think the interesting point with this is that hardware can be designed
> to destroy
> > itself with higher voltages (not sure how high). So, use the wrong key,
> and it's now
> > just so much junk. Which makes a lot of sense in millitary applications.
>
> Years ago I saw Fortezza documents that talked about the "duress PIN."
> It could let you login, but would perhaps generate bogons, signal the
> authorities, etc. I think that's very clever. Anyone ever do anything
> like that?
> /r$
>