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From: R. A. Hettinga (rahshipwright.com)
Date: Thu Sep 13 2001 - 20:51:34 CDT
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:20:08 -0400
From: Declan McCullagh <declanwell.com>
Subject: FC: Reply to crypto restrictions from Tim May; meeting tonight in
[I think Rob plans to gather at a restaurant at Columbia and 18th in Adams
Morgan around 8:30 pm or thereabouts -- I plan to be there -- but call his
cell phone for details. --Declan]
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:12:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rob Carlson <rcarls2umbc.edu>
Subject: Discussion meeting tonight at UMBC campus (fwd)
We are moving to D.C. Those of us that have gathered are taking the
metro from Greenbelt to Woodley Park in D.C. and going from there. If
anyone wants to intercept and join us, please call my cell phone and
I'll tell you where we wind up: 443-540-1957.
Please join us! If nothing else happens there will be another meeting
on Saturday, at a location we'll decide tonight.
-- Rob Carlson robvees.net http://vees.net/
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Rob Carlson <rcarls2umbc.edu> Subject: Discussion meeting tonight at UMBC campus Reply-To: umbclinuxlistproc.umbc.edu Organization: The Data Vectoring Society Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:43:32 -0400 (EDT)
In light of the amazing paranoia and possibly draconian measures being considered in the U.S. Government (see Declan's article below), I'd like to meet with some like minded people this evening and discuss ways to get the word out about the importance of civil liberties, and start the process of producing some credible and even-minded articles and letters to be sent to local newspapers, TV stations, and community groups. We have to urge our fellow citizens not to give up their basic civil rights, especially not the right to engage in private conversations over distance and share ideas in private that others (including those in power) might not agree with. I know it's short notice but if anyone would like to meet in the University Center on the campus of University of Maryland Baltimore County in Catonsville, MD tonight, grab some open net.access and figure out amongst ourselves where to go from here, you're welcome to join me. My cell phone number is 443-540-1957 and I'll be there from around 6:30pm for as long as I have to be. If this falls flat from the short notice, I'd like to schedule some time _soon_ to make sure that our voices are heard above the shouts of paranoia and fear. Thanks, Rob
-- Rob Carlson robvees.net http://vees.net/
[I'm not saying I necessarily agree with Tim's comments; I'm forwarding them because they're relevant and provocative. --Declan]
From: Tim May <tcmaygot.net> Subject: Re: Congress mulls crypto restrictions in response to attacks To: cypherpunkslne.com Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:35:12 -0700
On Thursday, September 13, 2001, at 01:58 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46816,00.html > > Congress Mulls Stiff Crypto Laws > By Declan McCullagh (declanwired.com) > 1:45 p.m. Sep. 13, 2001 PDT > > WASHINGTON -- The encryption wars have begun. > > For nearly a decade, privacy mavens have been worrying that a > terrorist attack could prompt Congress to ban > communications-scrambling products that frustrate both police > wiretaps > and U.S. intelligence agencies. > > Tuesday's catastrophe, which shed more blood on American soil than > any > event since the Civil War, appears to have started that process. > > Some politicians and defense hawks are warning that extremists such > as > Osama bin Laden, who U.S. officials say is a crypto-aficionado and > the > top suspect in Tuesday's attacks, enjoy unfettered access to > privacy-protecting software and hardware that render their > communications unintelligible to eavesdroppers. > > In a floor speech on Thursday, Sen. Judd Gregg (R-New Hampshire) > called for a global prohibition on encryption products without > backdoors for government surveillance.
This is the main reason it is ESSENTIAL that the "rest of the world" NOT (repeat NOT) support the U.S. in their upcoming actions against the likely WTC terrorists.
If Russia, China, India, Pakistan, the Arab countries, and of course the European nations "sign on," this will truly usher in a New World Order. Strong crypto will be banned so quickly our heads will spin (those of us not already arrested and dealt with).
I have no idea how to derail this freight train that is beginning to gather speed.
Dark times are coming. I'll bet a complete ban on strong, unescrowed crypto is passed in all European countries, Russia, China, Japan, and the U.S. by, say, December 15th. Congresscriminals are stumbling over their feet in their race to repeal big chunks of the Bill of Rights. For most countries, with no real Bills of Rights, the statists will use this to cement their own power.
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