From: Dave Aitel (daveimmunityinc.com)
Date: Fri May 19 2006 - 15:07:48 CDT

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For the record, I like the WEIS a lot, mostly because making money on
exploits is my job. And I understand it's really hard to get good
papers in the area. I just also find it amusing to read some of the
really bad ones. Often it seems like the bad ones bite off bigger
concepts than they can chew, and have to make up really out there
models to compensate.

- -dave

dangeer.org wrote:
> Always easy to make fun of academic papers, but here's a couple of
> ripostes in return...
>
> ============================================================
>
> When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in
> numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot measure
> it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is a
> meagre and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of
> knowledge, but you have scarcely, in your thoughts, advanced to the
> stage of science.
>
> -- William Thomson, Lord Kelvin, 1883
> ============================================================
>
> Amateurs study cryptography; professionals study economics.
>
> -- Allan Schiffman
> ============================================================
>
> Security folks are from Mars. Business people are from Wheaton.
>
> -- Adam Shostack
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>
>
> This year's WEIS is under Ross Anderson's tutelage.
>
>
>
> --dan, on too many deadlines to read more
>

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