From: John Smith (genericjohnsmithgmail.com)
Date: Mon Jun 25 2007 - 17:55:47 CDT

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On Jun 25, 2007, at 2:07 AM, matthew wollenweber wrote:

> I've never seen anything at all to make me think that the US is
> even a major player in the cyber warfare spectrum. Maybe top 10,
> but top 5? I'm not inclined to think so.
>
you say this because...you have security clearances from 4-9
governments in addition to the US, and are familiar with all national
attack capabilities? Sheesh, talk about talking out your butt! I'm
curious who you think the top 5 are even.

Falcor hit it on the head. Even though there are a bunch of small red
teams scattered about the govt, if the US wanted to get serious, how
many contractors could they pull in on the drop of a hat? How many
private companies like Dave's with known offensive capability would
they simply make new NDA contracts for? And since you probably think
that countries having cyber criminals makes them an effective power,
keep in mind that if you're talking general vigilantism, there will
always be plenty of that on both sides, and it will be largely wasted
since it won't be channeled to any central points of control for more
effective utilization.

John

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