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Re: [Dailydave] The audacity of thinking you're not owned

From: Jon Oberheide (jonoberheide.org)
Date: Mon Jul 14 2008 - 09:20:57 CDT


On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 08:21 +0200, Thomas Pollet wrote:
> - suppose you want to spoof a nonexistant subdomain of a site, e.g.
> pwned.paypal.com
> - you get a user on a website to repeatedly request something on that
> domain from within a web page
> - as the domain does not exist, every request will result in a dns lookup

Not necessarily. DNS has all sorts of wonderfully quirky features, one
of them being negative caching [1]. So your NXDOMAIN/SERVFAIL/whatever
responses for a RR can be cached too.

> - while the dns request is ongoing, flood the client (and intermediate
> dns in a recursive scheme) with fake responses.

Even if you did succeed, all you'd be left with pwned.paypal.com which
might be more effective than heyipromisethisispaypal.com in your
phishing emails, but has no where near the impact of arbitrary RR
poisoning.

Regards,
Jon Oberheide

[1] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2308.txt

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