From: Dave Aitel (daveimmunityinc.com)
Date: Fri Aug 01 2008 - 10:25:57 CDT

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These are not the papers you're looking for.
http://www.usenix.org/event/woot08/tech/full_papers/

Seriously, there's nothing there to scare an network offense
professional. I don't think it's w00t's fault, either. I think the
research communities are diverging into public and private, as this
research gets more expensive to do.

USENIX may not be the place for academic treatment of offensive security
research. A friend of mine wonders if there's any future for academic
treatment of the subject at all. He wonder's wistfully of course, since
he likes academia.

Anyways, either be scary or be silly. There's no middle ground here.
It's a fundamental truth in this field: You're either in, or you're out.

- -dave

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