From: Charles Miller (cmillersecurityevaluators.com)
Date: Tue Sep 02 2008 - 10:46:49 CDT

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I don't want to argue this to death, but I think everyone is missing
my point. Okay, MS has lots of smart people and Matt Miller kicks
ass. We all agree on this. However, I'm sure Matt is still
occasionally surprised by something some other researcher does or is
amazed when some guy no one has ever heard of from Argentina manages
to exploit some bug no one thought was possible. All I'm saying is it
is very hard to determine how reliably exploitable a particular
vulnerability is. Although, maybe I'm the only one who finds it
difficult...

Also, I know the MS party at Blackhat was good, but this has gotta be
the first time in history someone on a security list has been given so
much grief about mentioning that MS might not have the absolute best
security folks in the world :)

Charlie

On Sep 2, 2008, at 2:05 AM, Matthieu Suiche wrote:

> Ergosum is right. For instance, as you can see here,
> http://blogs.msdn.com/michael_howard/archive/2008/08/18/matt-miller-joins-the-security-science-team.aspx
> , MSFT recently hired Matt Miller/skape. And I'm sure they also have
> several unknow engineers who are very talented regarding security
> field.

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