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From: Caitlen (caitlen888yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Oct 03 2001 - 20:18:40 CDT

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    I'm noticed that openssh, even when connecting with
    protocol 2, seems to default to 3des. While that's a
    pretty conversative stance, isn't AES256 a little more
    secure? The order of preferrence seems to a little
    off.

    For example.
    3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes128-cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael128-cbc,rijndael192-cbc,rijndael256-cbc,rijndael-cbclysator.liu.se

    I believe are the default cipher types. Why is
    arcfour even in the list? I removed it many months
    ago on my production servers (with no ill effect).
    Infact right now I'm running with.

    Host *
      Ciphers rijndael256-cbc

    in my ~/.ssh/config
    and

    Ciphers rijndael256-cbc

    in my /etc/ssh/sshd_config, with no ill effect.
    SecureCRT from vandyke seems to support AES 256 with
    no difficulty either.

    Now I'm not suggesting we remove all of the other
    cipher types except for AES, that would certainly
    backwards compability. I am however suggesting that
    we should have some open dicussion on the order of
    preference here. Certainly arcfour should not be
    listed as being more preferrable then AES.
    Personally I think it should be something along the
    lines of.

    Ciphers AES256, AES192, AES128, blowfish, 3des

    As I stand back in january, it'd sure be niced if
    failed ssh logins showed up in the logs (at all) by
    default.... auth.info really should be in the default
    syslog.conf, most people dont know to add it in
    themselves. Sparing that, in sshd_config move the
    logging facility to security.

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