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From: D J Hawkey Jr (hawkeydvisi.com)
Date: Mon Jul 01 2002 - 19:54:35 CDT

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    In article <4.3.2.7.2.20020701102105.022a44f0_localhostns.sol.net>,
            brettlariat.org writes:
    >
    >>Please note that I have *not* asked for a binary update.
    >>I don't want to get flamed the way Brett does...
    >
    > ...for asking something reasonable? ;-)
    >
    > Seriously: Please do ask. If we do not have up-to-date binary
    > packages, a large percentage of the new installs of FreeBSD
    > (both network installs and those from CD-ROM) will be vulnerable
    > from the start, even though the holes have long been identified.
    > This is not only unethical but also terrible for FreeBSD's
    > reputation.

    Again with the "I need this from y'all 'cuz I'm too lame or lazy to do
    it myself, and I'm committed to countless customers with a solution of
    my own making that I can't support.".

    And now you're going so far as to call The Project "unethical". I gotta
    wonder if those same customers aren't going to refer to you with the
    same word pretty soon. You got 'em into this jam; you get 'em out.

    > Already, the Apache/FreeBSD worm is making the rounds. Why
    > allow new installs to be vulnerable?

    Jiminy Crickets, man! Get off you pedestal, roll up your sleeves, and
    get on with it. You MUST have a lot of work to do, what with spending
    all this time pissing and moaning about how others won't do it for you.

    > --Brett

    Ya know, Brett, in the time it takes for you to let one thread of yours
    die, I can update two disparate networks with two patches. And I have
    nowhere's near the expertise you so obviously must have.

    I won't be re-visiting this thread.
    Dave

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