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Re: FreeBSD Security Survey
From: Garance A Drosihn (drosihrpi.edu)
Date: Wed May 24 2006 - 14:40:23 CDT
At 2:45 PM -0400 5/24/06, Allen wrote:
> > It really depends on how many machines you have, on how
> > many different tasks they have and on which archictures
> > you're running.
>> The answer is: build host + jails for a testing environment...
>> This'll reduce your actual downtime.
>Did you just tell him to get another computer for each arch
>to have as a build machine???
>Being a broke college student I don't think that's something
>I'd ever do to install updates on my boxes. I can't afford
>another computer just to build updates when every other OS
>I use does updates in another way....
If you are a college student with a few machines that
you work with, then you can afford some downtime.
Note that the person was talking about the problems of
doing source updates on TEN machines. If you own ten
machines, and if all of those ten machines must have zero
downtime and rock-solid reliability, then you really
have to find the money for an eleventh machine. That is
just the cost of doing business. Find the money to do
the job right, or expect to go out of business the first
day that Murphy's Law comes knockin' at your door.
That issue of ten or more machines is completely separate
from the issue of how well the ports collection itself
should work, of course. But you can't complain about
the cost of one machine *WHEN* you are moaning about the
problems of owning ten machines which must be up 24/7.
"Pity the poor college student, with their personally-
owned data center of 50 machines split across five
different architectures." Uh, no. I won't. Anyone
who can afford that much hardware has more money than
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gadgilead.netel.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer or gadfreebsd.org
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosihrpi.edu
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