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Re: [Full-Disclosure] Will a vote for John Kerry be counted by a Hart InterCivic eSlate3000 in Honolulu?
From: Collin (myuupojo.com)
Date: Thu Oct 21 2004 - 11:06:47 CDT
Douschebag, take this off list, nobody but yourself cares what you
think about Kerry or about your topical humor. There are thousands of
other places to discuss this type of crap.
On Oct 21, 2004, at 9:29 AM, Exibar wrote:
> The question comes to mind... why oh why did you cast your vote for
> I guess you want the US to be policed and governed by the UN. I guess
> want someone in office that can't make up his mind about anything. I
> you want someone in office that will start to shred the Constitution
> by piece and change it bit by bit until it reads like the Heinz Ketchup
> bottle ingrediants.
> But, it's your vote, you can vote for anyone that you wish, I'll
> that right to the end, even if Kerry wants to take it away....
> My vote will be PROUDLY cast for Bush, just like it was 4 years ago.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Coombs PivX Solutions" <jasoncscience.org>
> To: <Full-disclosurenetsys.com>
> Cc: <infohartic.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:24 PM
> Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Will a vote for John Kerry be counted by a
> InterCivic eSlate3000 in Honolulu?
>> I just voted for John Kerry at a walk-in absentee ballot polling
>> place in
> Honolulu County using an eSlate3000 (unit serial number A05A0B) made
> by Hart
> Intercivic: http://www.hartintercivic.com
>> I was told by the official who gave me the choice of voting on paper
> voting electronically that the electronic voting machines weren't
> to be here yet, but that since they arrived in time for the 2004
> they were being used anyway.
>> Will my vote be counted? That depends on a number of unknowns, such as
> whether or not the unit on which my vote was cast subsequently
> rendering the entire vote tabulating memory card corrupt.
>> I did not receive a paper printout following the submission of my
> electronic ballot.
>> Excluding the obvious possibility that fraud may occur, either to
> the electronic 'ballot box' with false votes, or to intentionally
> destroy or
> fail to count votes for a particular candidate, there are risks
> inherent to
> electronic voting that do not exist in the same way with paper
> ballots. And
> although there are technical safeguards possible that seem like common
> sense, these safeguards continue to be ignored. Why?
>> Will we ever see common sense safeguards added to the electronic
>> A search for known security vulnerabilities or potential flaws in
> equipment manufactured and sold by Hart InterCivic turns up:
>> Prior to casting my vote, I provided a written 'application' to vote
> containing my current address and other contact information. Election
> officials have every bit of information necessary to inform me in the
> of a memory card failure or other malfunction that causes my
> electronic vote
> not to be counted properly.
>> We know the very equipment that I just used to cast my vote has
> malfunctioned in the past. There have never been any reports that any
> has ever been allowed to revote following the loss of their electronic
> database record. Why not?
>> I find it absurd that common sense solutions to electronic voting
> are not being used. The vote I just cast could be made available for my
> anonymous review after it has been counted. For that matter, all votes
> by all voters could be aggregated and published such that any voter
> confirm that the vote that was counted was in fact the vote that they
>> Such a safeguard would ensure that no fraud could occur without timely
> detection by those voters who are directly affected, and no vote would
> uncounted or be miscounted by mistake unless voters choose not to
> such data validation.
>> If we're going to allow these electronic voting devices in our
> then we the people must be empowered to become the all volunteer
> assurance army that validates the data output.
>> Reasonable people can live with the necessity to trust election
> to be honest, and the criminal justice procedures to hold them
> when they are not, but who are we supposed to hold accountable when
> equipment failures and flawed computer disaster recovery planning
> result in
> the secret exclusion of members of the public from access to their
> right to
>> If anyone has any further information about Hart InterCivic and the
> eSlate3000, please contact me directly.
>> Jason Coombs
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