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Re: [Full-disclosure] Our Industry Is Seriously Ethics Impaired
From: Georgi Guninski (guninskiguninski.com)
Date: Wed Jul 27 2005 - 10:57:18 CDT
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 09:56:45PM -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote:
> The so called .Zero Day Initiative. is aimed at ensuring the 'responsible'
> disclosure of security flaws in order to make technology more secure for
this is how i interpret "responsible" - you give them the 0day and give up
your consitutional right of "free speech". they give you a few bucks.
very close to the american dream.
then they get richer and "you grow older and they grow colder and nothing
is very much fun anymore" .
the movie "corporation" expliains it to some extent.
> all users. The goal is to proactively protect businesses against newly
> discovered vulnerabilities.
the goal is money, this is the PR version for the users naiive enough to vote
> 3Com will notify affected vendors of security flaws so they can
> immediately begin working on a solution, most often in the form of a
secondary market of bought 0days?
> The company stressed it would share vulnerability details freely with
> other security vendors prior to public disclosure.
hope they don't forget to carbon copy me with the 0days different from CSS.
> Zero day disclosure occurs when the discoverer of the vulnerability
> discloses the flaw to the public without notifying the vendor, putting
> businesses at risk from the time of disclosure until the affected vendor
> issues a patch. It can take vendors weeks or months to supply a patch.
it is legal where i live.
> division, said: "This program will extend our research organization even
> further, and enable us to tap some of the most brilliant minds in the
> global security research community..
i believe they will not "tap some of the most brilliant minds".
when one reaches a certain level of expertise and/or experience, the chances
that he is a money whore are low imho.
 paraphrased Pink Floyd, "One of my turns"
where do you want bill gates to go today?
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