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RE: [Full-disclosure] [Clips] A small editorial about recent events.(fwd)

From: Scott Schappert (sschappertmolecular-inversion-dynamics.com)
Date: Mon Dec 19 2005 - 08:53:17 CST


People seem to forget that your place of birth is not your choice. Should
you choose to rant about earning to scorn others for having a different
philosophy about freedom and death, that is cool, but remember the
scaffolding you fought for includes (our?) constitutional amendments.

People do not have to die to realize freedom. Seems the days of "freedom of
thought" and personal responsibility have eclipsed. Do we really need the
weight of destruction of people we have never met placed squarely upon our
shoulders ? And for what ? Jobs, economy ? Get real and read the signs.

In closing- a quote:

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired
signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger, and are not
fed. Those who are cold, and not clothed. This world in arms is not
spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius
of its scientists, the hopes of its children.

This is not a way of life at all in any true sense; under the clouds of war,
it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron"

-Dwight D. Eisenhower

I apologize, but a freedom loving, peaceful and responsible person cannot
turn their eyes from the brutal reality, that just does not have to be.

Cheers to the list.

S.S.

Ex nihilo, nihil.

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-bounceslists.grok.org.uk
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounceslists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Benjamin
Franz
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 6:28 AM
To: full-disclosurelists.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [Clips] A small editorial about recent
events.(fwd)

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005, Jamie C. Pole wrote:

>
> Well, for one thing, I am a veteran, and have EARNED these rights that you

> liberal whiners take for granted. When you believe in something enough to

> die for it, come back and talk to me.

I'm a veteran as well. 6 years in the US Navy: 1987 through 1993.

I served during Gulf War I aboard the ship that fired the second shots of
the war (although the press got it wrong by about 20 minutes and reported
them as the first shots) and was the US force closest to Kuwait the day it
was invaded by Iraq. We were 75 miles of its coast.

I remember being woken up at an ungodly hour of the morning that day by
the ship going to General Quarters and working in the guts of the broken
missile launcher that was the ship's long range air defense repairing it
while some hundreds of planes of unknown intent were flying south towards
us the next day (after having been woken up by another call to General
Quarters that morning).

Now go to hell.

--
Benjamin Franz
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