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RE: [Full-disclosure] Comment Spam: new trends, failing counter-measures and why it's a big deal
From: php0t (veryunprivate.com)
Date: Sun Feb 12 2006 - 22:54:27 CST
> > A big part of the problem you mention can be solved by requiring a
> > Turing test for the actions that you don't want a bot to be able to
> > do.
> I guess you missed all the historic discussion of how cheap it is, in
> "Western" terms, to employ what passes as skilled labour in much of
> third-world to solve "captcha-like" challenges???
Actually I didn't, this is exactly why I wrote 'big part of the
problem' (that maybe you missed). I thought a very big percentage was
related to only bots doing the spamming, and just a smaller percentage
hiring real life people to spam for them or just solve the captcha-like
challenges (in which case the Turing test isn't a solution).
> Now, while I'm sure that approach would not be economically viable for
> most large-scale blog-spamming, depending on the blog and the spam, it
> may well be worthwhile for some especially targetted blog-spam, so
> shouldn't be expected to be a singularly successful solution.
Yep.. I repeat. 'Big part of the problem'. Which is nowhere near
'singularly successful solution'.
Let's suppose 20% of that spam you see is posted by people doing this
all day, getting paid for it. It's probably much less, but this is all a
guess, nothing more. Would it not be a solution for the other 80% ?
Of course, if you have some statistics that tell me I terribly
underestimated that overestimation of 20%, or just introduce new
elements that I did not consider, do not hesitate to show it to me, I'm
happy with accepting facts.
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