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Re: [Full-disclosure] Perforce client: security hole by design
From: Ben Bucksch (newsbucksch.org)
Date: Wed Jan 03 2007 - 20:23:27 CST
Anders B Jansson wrote:
> I'd say that it's a design decition, not sure that it's a design flaw.
> It's all down to what you try to protect.
> ... connecting any device not 100% controlled by the company to a company network is strictly forbidden, doing so would be regarded as intended sabotage.
OK, so this bug is not a problem in your company or some Perforce
setups. That's fine. However, I hope it was clear from my description
that it's *not* fine in other cases:
* remote contractors like me with their own machine who work for
many companies and don't feel like having 20 boxen, on separate
* I've seen quite some startup companies who actually required their
employees to bring their own computers, because the company didn't
have money yet. Neither had the employees. What about their
* As far as I can see, the FreeBSD project uses Perforce for some
project parts ,. I'm quite sure they don't hand out
computers to all relevant committers. In fact, that Perforce
server is running against the Internet
(perforce.freebsd.org:1666), so anybody cracking that machine
might break into developers' machines. And, worst case, go on from
* There are public Perforce servers for anonymous access. That's
comparable with public FTP or HTTP servers. Surely you'd be upset,
if a random FTP server would have access to your files just
because you downloaded something.
In all these cases, this is a critical flaw for the Perforce user. Flaws
on ebay.com for ebay users are still flaws.
I understand the reasoning of Perforce's design, and I understand that
most companies think that their *own* servers are fine and never pose a
problem to *anybody*, why *would* they, but that's just not a valid
assumption for the rest of the world.
> IT director chosing Y would say "I chose a highprofile proffessional
> company with a good security track record".
Sometimes, the track record is only good because nobody looked into it.
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