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IDS Archives: Re: IDS: SV: Combining IDS and firewalls

Re: IDS: SV: Combining IDS and firewalls


Jonas Eriksson (jesekure.net)
Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:14:43 +0200 (CEST)


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There is an free program named Sentry that can change the firewall rules in realtime (For *BSD and Linux)

You can find sentry at: http://www.psionic.com/abacus/portsentry/

And a piece of code that spoofs an attack can be found at: http://www.dataguard.no/bugtraq/1998_3/0063.html

Regards

-- Jonas Eriksson Sekure.NET Security Research Lulea/Sweden

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Aronius Joakim wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Combining firewalls and IDS does give some neat features but it also > opens up some new vulnerabillities. It is for example trivial to > block access to any site only by scanning the fw with a spoofed > adress. Rule no.1 keep it simple... > > Regards, > Joakim Aronius > _____________________________________________________ > Joakim Aronius, ICL IT-Security > Linköping, Sweden > > *** PGP Signature Status: unknown > *** Signer: Unknown, Key ID = 0xA1F0DCEA > *** Signed: 1999-09-11 17:50:56 > *** Verified: 1999-09-13 07:58:08 > *** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** > > Has anyone any experience in combining firewalls with IDS? Several > commercial Intrusion Detection systems can generate new firewall > rules > on the fly to block the possible intrusion. Has anyone used this and > has had good or bad experience with it? > > As well, are there any systems to combine the firewall logging with > IDS logging to generate more complete summaries of an attack? Since a > firewall may block part of the intruders attack but not block the > part > that the IDS sees, we need both sets of logs to analyse the nature of > the attack. > > > Bill Royds > Internet Security Manager > Department of Canadian Heritage > 15-5-F, 15 Eddy St. > Hull QC > > phone: (819) 994-0507 > email: postmasterpch.gc.ca > > > > > *** END PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.1 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> > > iQA/AwUBN9yGbQ2P5cC54v7BEQKIPwCZAVICQpUxwF9TCqvBeeOYtU+xx+EAoOyq > sAhX7Kp32jYj/I9x1ZTeVhIf > =zVf1 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >



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