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From: Keith.Morgan (Keith.MorganTerradon.com)
Date: Mon Nov 12 2001 - 13:12:39 CST

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    We haven't seen it re-occuring. Apparently several sites were hit over the
    weekend. We're also currently running a sniffer on the segment in addition
    to the IDS (which missed this by the way). Also, this is assuming that it
    is in actuality a DoS and not a strings of coincidences.

    I'm not a firm believer in coincidence.

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Shoten [mailto:shotenstarpower.net]
    > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:03 PM
    > To: Keith.Morgan; 'Mike Shaw'; incidentssecurityfocus.com
    > Subject: Re: IIS (Possible DoS floating around)
    >
    >
    > Does the problem re-occur reliably, and if so, can you put a
    > sniffer on the
    > segment and catch the traffic at the time of the incident?
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Keith.Morgan" <Keith.MorganTerradon.com>
    > To: "'Mike Shaw'" <mshawwwisp.com>; <incidentssecurityfocus.com>
    > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:18 PM
    > Subject: RE: IIS (Possible DoS floating around)
    >
    >
    > > I've fully reviewed all event logs, webserver logs, IDS and
    > firewall logs
    > > for the day of the crash. I can't find a cause, only a
    > symptom. Here is
    > an
    > > exerpt from the w3svc logs:
    > >
    > > 2001-11-10 15:41:27 remoteip - localip 80 GET /index.cfm
    > > Out-of-process+ISAPI+extension+request+failed. 500 Mozilla/4.0+(c
    > > ompatible;+MSIE+5.5;+AOL+6.0;+Windows+98;+Win+9x+4.90)
    > >
    > > At least in the incidents with which I'm familiar, at least
    > the w3svc,
    > > ftpsvc, and cold fusion are running on the machines. There was a
    > *possible*
    > > time co-incidence with an FTP connection that (according to the log
    > entries)
    > > dropped with an error.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > > -----Original Message-----
    > > > From: Mike Shaw [mailto:mshawwwisp.com]
    > > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:03 PM
    > > > To: Keith.Morgan; 'incidentssecurityfocus.com'
    > > > Subject: Re: IIS (Possible DoS floating around)
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Any further info on system configurations? ISAPI
    > mappings, installed
    > > > software (perl, cold fusion...), running services?
    > > >
    > > > -Mike
    > > >
    > > > At 12:27 PM 11/12/2001 -0500, Keith.Morgan wrote:
    > > > >The focus-ms list is hopping a little regarding some strange
    > > > behaviour from
    > > > >IIS.
    > > > >
    > > > >The symptoms:
    > > > >IIS continues to run (or sometimes crashes), but the common
    > > > thread is that
    > > > >the port is closed.
    > > > >
    > > > >After recieving a report on focus-ms, and having this same
    > > > behaviour occur
    > > > >on one of our webservers, I contacted a friend who runs a
    > > > (logically) nearby
    > > > >network. He indicated that the same problem had occurred on
    > > > some of thier
    > > > >servers.
    > > > >
    > > > >I'm currently pouring over logs attempting to locate
    > > > anything out of the
    > > > >ordinary.
    > > > >
    > > > >Just a note for all those that will say "make sure you've
    > > > applied patches or
    > > > >run the hfnetchk:" Our servers are at completely current
    > > > patch levels.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >Keith T. Morgan
    > > > >Chief of Information Security
    > > > >Terradon Communications
    > > > >keith.morganterradon.com
    > > > >304-755-8291 x142
    > > > >
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