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From: Azerail (Azerail_at_supersecretninjaskills.com)
Date: Sun Sep 08 2002 - 07:25:22 CDT

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    My thoughts in-line...

    On Sun, 08 Sep 2002, andy_mnhushmail.com wrote:

    > - - I have not seen any incident reports on Incidents, or any other
    > mailing list for that matter.

    If it's a private exploit, in the hands of one or two people, there
    may be a vested interest in not reporting it.

    > - - You'd think several high profile sites would've been attacked already
    > with such devastating exploits, but I've seen no reports of this. In
    > fact, if the kids really did have such an exploit, you'd think they'd
    > tag their h4ndl3z all over high profile sites. But according to Alldas,
    > high profile defacements have been virtually nonexistent in the last
    > year or so.

    Not if they are being sneaky and lying low. A wise decision given
    today's political climate.

    > - - Given the skill required to craft such an exploit, I'd think it
    > would be way out of the grasp of the kids. Since no researcher has
    > come forth with such a vulnerability, it's logical to conclude that
    > this does not exist.

    Not everyone who crafts an exploit is neccessarly a researcher or a
    kid.

    Anyway, just my thoughts, no basis whatsoever, just based on the
    availible information.

    Azerail

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