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Re: SSH probes?

Valdis.Kletnieksvt.edu
Date: Wed May 12 2004 - 09:20:17 CDT


On Wed, 12 May 2004 09:03:57 BST, iglope said:

> one time we have : authentication failure;
>
> >May 9 21:35:10 evita sshd(pam_unix)[16374]: check pass; user unknown
> >
> >
> Another we have : check pass; user unknown
> isn't a way to discover a valid user for next brute force session ?
> may be u have to tune your ssh to send the same msg for valid and
> invalid user ?

*You*, as the system admin, are told whether it's a valid userid
with a bad password, or an invalid userid - because your reaction to
the incident may differ based on which it is.

That doesn't mean that the attacker/user *at the far end* is able
to detect the distinction.

Having said that, there *was* an issue with SSH and PAM support a while ago,
where a timing attack would tell you which it was. It shouldn't be an issue if
you're at a current release....

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