From: InfoSec News (isnc4i.org)
Date: Thu Oct 04 2001 - 03:04:58 CDT

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Forwarded from: Kim Zetter/PCWORLD <kzetterpcworld.com>

Per Jay Lyman's story about full disclosure at NewsFactor Network
(http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/13871.html), he wrote:

> Experts agree that advisories, by their very nature, may be a heads-up
> to hackers. eEye Security came under fire for disclosing the Code Red
> vulnerability in June before Microsoft had released a patch for the
> hole, and again for releasing detailed information after Code Red was
> controlled, which some blamed for the success of the Code Red II virus.

I'm not sure where Lyman got his info but, according to eEye (and per
the story I wrote about it at
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,60744,00.asp )

the company notified Microsoft of the vulnerability in May and waited
a month for the patch to be produced before making their announcement
simultaneously with Microsoft's posting of the patch in June.

In fact, Marc Maiffret of eEye says that they were scheduled to post
the announcement a week earlier, but Microsoft contacted him to ask
for more time, saying there was a problem with the patch and they
needed another week to fix it.

EEye complied. Jay Dyson correctly noted that Microsoft publicly
thanked the company for waiting until they had prepared the patch.

InfoSec News <isnc4i.org>attrition.org on 10/02/2001 02:29:57 AM

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Subject: [ISN] Full Disclosure: How Much Security Info Is Too Much?

http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/13871.html

By Jay Lyman
NewsFactor Network
October 1, 2001

The debate over how much detail to release on software security gaps
and when to go public with potentially sensitive security information
has experts looking for a middle ground, wherein systems can be
secured without helping hackers.

The Code Red and Code Red II virus outbreaks, which capitalized on
vulnerabilities that were publicized before the viruses spread,
brought the debate front and center, but the issue presents a constant
challenge to those who hunt for vulnerabilities.

Administrators whose systems fell prey to Code Red and Code Red II
because they lacked the necessary security patches bore much of the
blame for the spread of the viruses. But when considering the bigger
picture and the vast numbers of vulnerabilities uncovered every day,
the situation becomes more complex, according to CERT vulnerability
handling team leader Sean Hernan.

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