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From: Sean Waddell (swaddellespgroup.net)
Date: Mon Apr 16 2001 - 10:54:28 CDT

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    I am running several servers with only SSL and I get a lot of
    "napster_command_long" events. It would be nice to get some real
    feedback on when this will be fixed.

    Tim_Walravenamsinc.com wrote:
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    > I may be way off base on this, but Jeroen's statement about 443 (SSL) and our
    > experience with 1352 (Notes) leads me to believe that encrypted traffic may be
    > one of the reasons we saw so manyfalse positives. It seems that only our Notes
    > servers trigger this event and all of our Notes servers encrypt. Can anyone
    > else draw a similar correlation? I'll leave it to the folks at ISS to figure
    > this one out......
    >
    > Tim Walraven
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    > | Subject: RE: false positives for napster_command_long with sql |
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    > I wonder why this issue is not answered.
    > I have the exact same false positives all the time, on two different sites.
    > They all look like this. I suspect it is triggered by the socks port.
    >
    > Napster command long source anyip 443, 80,(ssl,http) dest anyip 1080
    > (socks)
    >
    > I have also the following generated on a sensor before the firewall.
    >
    > streamdos source <webserver> 443, dest anyip anyport
    >
    > The websegment has a load balancer which might be the cause to trigger the
    > stream-dos.
    >
    > bye,
    >
    > Jeroen
    >
    > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    > Van: Athanasiou, Ken (Wingspan) [mailto:KenAthanasiouFirstUSA.com]
    > Verzonden: vrijdag 6 april 2001 14:17
    > Aan: 'ritter dan'; issforumiss.net
    > Onderwerp: RE: false positives for napster_command_long with sql servers
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    > I was getting nailed with the napster_command_long alerts... coming from one
    > of my boxes that I'm 100% absotively certain isn't trying to "pass a very
    > long command to a napster client".
    >
    > "No false positives are known for this signature."
    >
    > Might want to look a little harder... :-)
    >
    > Ken
    >
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    > From: ritter dan [mailto:pentesteryahoo.com]
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    > All,
    >
    > two issues here:
    >
    > false positives
    > &
    > is this an attempt to use napster (see below)
    >
    > we are getting false positives for sql transactions
    > using port 1433 from our sql servers to sql servers
    > running people soft.
    >
    > I have confirmed this via user defined events (also
    > ethereal) to see that these were indeed sql packets -
    > usually data transfers.
    >
    > I also see some of the same napster_command_long
    > headed toward our firewall with the port of httpd -
    > which makes me think that these are real attempts to
    > run napster - which I think is blocked at our
    > firewall.
    >
    > Is someone (that is pointed toward our firewall)
    > trying to use napster ?
    >
    > We are running
    >
    > console 5.5.2000.277
    > sensor 5.0.2000.364
    > with sr 1.1 MU 2.2
    >
    > The help for this event sez - no false positives.
    >
    > ISS - Any help ??
    >
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    Sean Waddell
    Network Engineer
    The ESP Group
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