On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Jay Estabrook wrote:

>> When someone implies/hints that the stock XFree86 code is better
>> than what I spend 3/4 of my waking time working my ass off on,
>> fixing and closing bugzilla reports, etc. and submitting patches
>> back upstream, then indeed, that upsets me because they're
>> implying that I am not doing my job.
>
>Mike, I humbly apologize and beg your pardon for my very poor choice
>of words in my previous post. I, perhaps more than most, am very aware
>of the amount of time and effort you make generically, and Alpha
>specifically, in supporting XFree86 for Red Hat.
>
>What I should have said was: Try the pristine XFree86 sources, and if
>that *does* build, then there's something (the original poster) didn't
>understand about those RH sources or how to build them. Because I also
>work very hard, to make sure that the pristine sources build on Alpha,
>and want to know at anytime if anyone has trouble with *them*.

Ok, sorry if I took your post too much to heart. I've been hit
indirectly and directly with a lot of negative commentary lately
from various places, and so it has been a sensitive thing with
me lately.

>> file bug reports in our bugzilla also. This in turn makes my job
>> even more difficult, as I try to reproduce a problem that was
>> caused by something the user has done that they should not have,
>> or that they should not have reported to us as it is outside of
>> what we support.
>
>Without question, it is the user's responsibility to know exactly what
>that are working with and how it is to be used. If there's any
>positive aspect to my uttering those ill-chosen comments, it is in
>this discussion's making this assignment of responsibility explicit
>and public. One should know what one is getting; there should be no
>surprises.

Agreed.

>> I am very insulted to see someone say "stay away from Red Hat
>> XFree86 and use XFree86.org instead" after the effort I have
>> expended. And especially so from where it came from.
>
>Again, I sincerely apologize for my inexcusable comments.

I was a bit quick to take offense so easily. I should have
probably given you the benefit of doubt and asked you for
clarification first.

Thanks for clarifying this with me Jay, and thank you for your
comments as well. I too appreciate your own efforts with keeping
XFree86 working well on Alpha.

Take care,
TTYL

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