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Re: "Yarrow" on Alpha
From: Michal Jaegermann (michalellpspace.math.ualberta.ca)
Date: Mon Nov 10 2003 - 11:35:22 CST
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 03:38:08PM +1100, Mike Barnes wrote:
> So anyway - after a bit of tweaking of a few spec files, and manually
> sorting out build orders, I have about 700 packages from Yarrow built.
> I'd like a little help with the rest, if anyone's game.
> The big ones that'll need work are gcc, glibc and XFree86
My best guess would be that you need some "bootstrapping" work here and
not just tweaking specs. I mean by that that first you have to compile
from sources, not by a rebuilding srpms, a version of gcc3 which works
with 7.2 libraries (a good question is if there are Alpha specific bugs
there and patches for that) and then you can use that compiler to build
glibc. This may depend on a kernel so this may result in more work.
The last time I was recompiling a full XFree86 the biggest issue was
that this operation required something like 800 MB of a free disk space,
But if you left glibc for the very end then your recompilation effort is
somewhat to naught. If you will replace glibc then you will find out
that you are linking with wrong dynamic libraries and nothing works.
One way out is to leave old glibc alone. That way you will end up with
sort of "pseudo-Yarrow" as various things there (NTPL for sure) depend
on an updated glibc.
> I've got everything built so far in an apt repository. I already had apt
> built for 7.2 on the Alpha, and tools to manage it all, so I stuck with
> it. I haven't upgraded RPM itself yet, so the apt for 7.2 is working
Some half a year ago, or so, I was playing with apt on Alpha and I built
its GUI front end (synaptic) as well. I believe a version 0.28. This
was on 7.2-Alpha so it is using gnome-1.4 or whatever is "native".
Yarrow not only with a different rpm version but with Gnome2 as well
so again you are running into "chicken-or-egg" issues. Anyway, if you
are interested then this sounds like off-list topic. Still 'yum'
has advantages, I believe, on a longer run even if it does not have
a GUI front-end so far. Not mentioning that detail that it comes
with "Yarrow". OTOH there is nothing which prevents the same depository
to provide both apt and yum support.
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