hi ya

if the machines are hardened and so are the network..

if you attempt to do something like telnet,ftp,ppp,pop3s,dhcp...
it just wotn connect/work ...
        - firewall will drop those services
        becauses its "against policy"

if the admin is NOT notified/emailed/paged ..
than the systems need to be upgraded...
        - but than again, you only want tobe emailed/paged
        only when its important... not because a newbie
        tried to do yahoo chat during the work day ...etc
        or telnet/ftp instead of ssh

c ya
alvin

On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:

> On Tuesday 08 October 2002 13:57, martin f krafft wrote:
>
> > Use netcat for that.
>
> [*hm, man netcat*] Yeah, OK, thanks, I didn't know about that.
>
> > > That way, people with correct privileges could still use telnet for
> > > sensible things, yet the admin would be warned if they did
> > > something very careless with other packages.
> >
> > How would the admin be warned?
>
> Oh, wasn't that the point with the harden-clients package? If you
> attempt to install a Bad[tm] client, you will be told, because it
> conflicts with harden-clients?
>

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