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From: andrew lattis (alattis_at_mindspring.com)
Date: Tue Oct 22 2002 - 09:46:03 CDT

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    On 2002/10/22 04:27:26PM +0200, Tue, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
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    > Hi folks!
    >
    > I'd like to ask what people do with their AIDE output at times when a
    > lot of things change on their system?
    >
    > I've gone through the AIDE configuration, and I feel like having
    > configured it well, to catch the things that might be trojaned while
    > leaving out things that I would certainly change often.
    >
    > But I'm working a lot on the system these days, so the output just keeps
    > growing out of hand really quick. I get a Too Much Information problem
    > within a week of having created the database. Last night's output was
    > close to 3000 lines, but I've had up to 60000 lines of output there...
    > I find it hard to keep up at all when the output exceeds a hundred
    > lines.
    >
    > So, I've got to do something, but I don't really understand what.
    > aide --update, ok, but what does that really mean? It just creates a new
    > database to compare with the old, but then, I should keep the old,
    > because there are too many changes for me to keep up and be certain
    > that nothing Bad[tm] as slipped in.... But if I do, the problem just
    > keeps growing...
    >
    > So I hope the kind folks here can offer some advice... :-)
    >
    > Best,
    >
    > Kjetil
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    > Kjetil Kjernsmo
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    i've only got 20 or so servers to deal with but i know what you mean.
    i use a shell script to create system backups, i added an option to it
    todo an aide backup which basically consists of

    'tar -cvpWf aide.$date.tar /var/lib/aide/aide.db /etc/aide/aide.conf /usr/bin/aide /var/cache/apt/archives/aide_*.deb'

    then scp that to a backup server where it goes through my normal
    process, except these files never get deleted from disk/tape. so i can always
    go back and see what happened if needed.

    i also like to keep a separate mbox for each server where i can save all
    the interesting logcheck, aide, etc output.

    as far as keeping things small, i usually just do a aide --update the
    day after i've made any changes, i go through the output to make sure
    the only changes are what i expected.

    hope this helps

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