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From: Thomas Mangin, Free (thomas.manginfree.fr)
Date: Sat Dec 01 2001 - 17:17:34 CST

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    > BTW, what is REALLY the problem with his file structure ?
    > It create 5 more inodes ??? It 'looks ugly' ???
    > I can't care less, why are you ??
    > Please illight me

    |As i have said numerous times here, I don't care about the "/var/qmail"
    |issue. The issue is that we probably never will see qmail, djbdns,
    ucspi-tcp
    |and friends in the Mandrake non commercial distro because of the "DJB
    |licence". This, my friend is too sad...

    Yes, but during year Netscape came with every mandrake distro !
    People trace the limit where it is convienient.
    The only exception being RMS :-)

    |As Vincent Danen described, if Mandrake can't patch it and/or rearrange the
    |install locations, it's not free.

    It is not free enough (in their point of view), which is somehow comercial
    as well.
    It do believe he way is better. However I am not using runit. It is my
    choice.

    I am happy to learn that Mandrake is going to release the package as
    commercial and not ignore them.
    I can understand their policy, commercial is fine with me.

    |Hell, I think even "echo "gcc %{optflags}" > conf-cc violates the "DJB
    |licence". You can't change the queue split value like: echo "53" >
    conf-split
    |either... Or echo "/usr/local/qmail" > conf-qmail. And so on... Just
    because
    |there are these conf-* files it doesn't mean you are allowed to use them
    for
    |packaging, to conform to the LSB or FHS standards... This was discussed on
    |the *very* long thread on the BSD list... Think about it..., isn't this
    plain
    |stubborn silly stupidity or what?

    Mr Bernstein value security. I am SURE that if Mandrake provide Qmail, it
    will be AS SECURE AS compiling it myself.
    I appreciate this security offered by the licence.

    And effectively he is stubborn, RMS as well, people with a goal are often
    stubborn.
    It is part of their strenght.

    You can not will to change the world and bend as soon as someone complain !!

    Thomas