On Sun Dec 02, 2001 at 09:53:49AM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

> > > Yes, but during year Netscape came with every mandrake distro !
> > > People trace the limit where it is convienient.
> > > The only exception being RMS :-)
> >
> > The reason for this is that the only other quality browser, at the
> > time, was lynx. Not too many people want to browse the web in text.
> > =) When Netscape was first being bundled, there was no Konqueror,
> > there was no Mozilla; or at least there was none that had the same
> > quality as Netscape. I expect Netscape to be moved to commercial apps
> > in the near future as browsers exceed Netscape's quality. It is no
> > longer required to provide users a good graphical browser.
> >
> > There are alternatives to qmail that work. If qmail was the only MTA
> > that worked, it likely would be in main. But we have postfix and
> > sendmail there, both which work. How easy or secure they are is not
> > really the issue... they work, and in most cases work well enough.
>
> What you're saying is "we only care enough about license if we can afford
> to". This is exactly what DJB claimed. This may have been the approach in
> the past, but from what I understand, the approach nowadays is to be more
> strict than in the past (when netscape was added to redhat).

Well, to some extent, yes. Notice that djb has not criticized
Mandrake for not including qmail... he criticized OpenBSD for removing
it. Also note that netscape was removed from OpenBSD far before qmail
was, so his accusations are groundless (insofar as OpenBSD is
concerned).

> I guess Netscape stays for backward compatibility (that is: until someone
> bothers to kick it out and handle the problems created by this)

Yup... like I said, with the status of browsers such as Mozilla and
Konq, I expect Netscape's life in main to be short-lived. It may even
be removed for 8.2, but I can't say. If it were up to me, I would
remove it for 8.2, or put into commercial apps, because Mozilla
performs just as well, if not better.

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