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From: Bill Kenworthy (billkiinet.net.au)
Date: Tue Jan 15 2002 - 17:22:11 CST

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    On Wed, 2002-01-16 at 01:45, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
    > On 15 Jan 2002, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
    >
    > > There's also "anomy", a perl script that does all this and more.I am
    > > using it via procmail/postfix and other than false alarming (warning
    > > message) on the Mandrake list coz its footer gets included as an
    > > attached text document.
    >
    > What's wrong with a text/plain part?
    I think this is just a warning that it has been scanned and nothing
    obnoxious is hidden within - some mail systems are set to to delete ALL
    attachments before forwarding to reduce risk, this is a compromise, and
    informs the user that it has been checked.
    >
    > > It picks up the usual virii attachments quite
    > > reliably, defangs html mail (embedded scripts etc in the html) and also
    > > perl/shell scripts etc (inserts an "exit" statement and comment at the
    > > top of the file so it cant be run by accident!)
    >
    > Sounds very intrusive to me.
    How paranoic are you? - i.e., this is the preference (or specification
    worked to) by many people. Its only mildly intrusive and my family use
    mail lists that love cute html things and this is a bit safer. and no,
    one cannot turn off incoming html mail (a popular uprising would occur!)
    - some of the lists have no alternatives! We also get the odd html
    carried virus and this picks up and sanitises them quite reliably.
    >
    > A decent mail program does not execute scripts. If my mailer (OK, it
    > probably has a number of buffer overflows somewhere, but it is rather sane
    > apart from that) gets some script, it simply displays it to me.
    >
    > Now if some support guy sent Joe User a script to use, he had to work
    > around those strange (=unexpected) limitations
    >
    Now if someone set up a mimetype in evolution for say, perl and
    misclicked one time...
    Not likely, but it could happen. Also, one place I have worked had a
    number of developers working in windoze with perl and the windoze unix
    and shell environment (cant remember the name - mental block!!!) which
    would be at risk of executable shell scripts for all the usual windoze
    reasons.
    > > It can also call a true
    > > viris scanner to scan documents you want to let through, but need
    > > checking internally.
    >
    > IMHO you should not try to overly clean. I rather have a virus scanner
    > bounce a message than trying to clean it, and possibly creating an
    > incorrect content.
    >
    personnel pref. Also not clean, rather look inside a file and see if it
    does contain a virus, rather than just bounce based on criteria - its
    flexible! At one time I did have anomy set to bounce, but I dont trust
    the return address any more. I have heard that there is at least one
    virus that trys to fake the header.
    > > The documents have some discussion on performance
    > > tuning, which from memory was quite acceptable considering what it is
    > > doing.A good first line for Linux users and
    >
    > For linux users?
    whoops, meant to say and "windows clients hanging off the mail system."
    > Linux users have decent mail clients (read: not many people used Outlook
    > & co. on linux lately)
    user misconfiguration, and mail for doze users passing through ...
    >
    Good points though!

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