From: Buchan Milne (bgmilnecae.co.za)
Date: Wed Nov 19 2003 - 05:14:56 CST

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Jordan T. wrote:
> This is a question one of the secteam will probably have to answer,
> Vincent or Buchan if your out there?

I will just give you the answer (more or less) that Warly gave on cooker
(you should be able to find it in the archives or so).

> I recently discovered that the kernel-source package is not included in
> any of the 3 cd iso's for mdk 9.2, yet they appear in the tree on ftp
> mirrors under CD1 (i586/Mandrake/RPMS).
>
> Why was kernel-source taken out of the iso's ?

There wasn't enough space, it was either kernel-source (on the 3
download CDs) or KDE translations (on the first 3 Powerpack CDs).

> Is this going to be a recurring thing in all releases from now on?

No, 9.2 just got too big, and Warly didn't want to release 4 CDs. There
just isn't enough space to fit all of main onto 3 CDs (this has been the
case since 9.0 and the great outcry about abiword being missing). We're
about 300MB short using 1 650MB ISO and 2 700MB ISOs. The first CD was
intentionally made only 650MB to ensure that people with old
CD-ROM/CD-R/CD-RW drives that don't handle >650MB could at least get a
working installation.

> I
> certainly hope not as things like nvidia/ati drivers require that you
> have a known good kernel source installed. Take the nforce onboard
> ethernet adapter for instance, you need to compile nvidia's nvnet module
> which requires kernel-source, so you cant exactly download it from a
> tree when its the only NIC you have.

Funny though, all the other on-board NICs (mostly RTL-8139's) work just
fine out-the-box ;-).

The issues are known, but:
- -packages of most of the proprietary drivers are available from the
MandrakeClub, so Club members can download these in advance
- -If you are upgrading, you keep your old kernel (and all it's modules),
so you could boot off the old kernel to get the kernel-source.

The kernel-source *should* be on the download ISOs, but what about
everything else?

BTW, the 3 Powerpack ISOs that are available on the Club have
kernel-source, but then many KDE translations are missing (and some
users already complained about that).

Regards,
Buchan

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