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From: Nix (susenix.hispeed.com)
Date: Mon Jan 08 2001 - 18:07:13 CST

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    At 09:25 PM 6/01/2001 +0000, you wrote:
    >Thomas,
    >Can you advice us a IDS that dont suck?
    >I just use Linux at home so I'll probably keep using many things that suck,
    >at least for try to learning how they suck, but others may need to know
    >other IDS apps, for corporate use.
    >http://website.lineone.net/~offthecuff/HIDS.htm
    >(http://www.networkintrusion.co.uk)
    >
    >btw ... also many commercial stuff suck, in this case vulnerability
    >scanners: http://www.nwc.com/1201/1201f1b1.html

    IMHO IDS systems are close to worthless. At best they lets you know that you
    have already been broken into, at worst, they breed a dangerous false sense of
    security.
    As a greater percentage of network traffic is being encrypted every day,
    and an IDS
    cannot "see" into encrypted traffic, it means that your IDS has a huge
    blind-spot.
    This is only going to get worse.
    Test out any of the IIS exploits if you don't believe me (the unicode
    exploit is a good
    example because it works against IIS4 and IIS5) this exploit will sail
    straight past your
    IDS without raising a murmur, allow you to execute arbitrary programs on
    the target
    machine, and even download the servers Private SSL key. FUN!

    Cheers

    -Nix

    -- 
    Microsoft is to operating systems & security ....
                                           .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking
    

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