At Dienstag, 8. Oktober 2002 11:42
Volker Kuhlmann <hiddenparadise.net.nz> wrote:
> [when I was critizing Ben Rosenberg]
> Can you take your personal problems offlist please? Thanks.
> Volker

And can you post under an address where personal responses
are possible, Mr. Hidden Paradise?

These are not my personal problems alone.
The list is overflowing with request from
people who are too lazy to look first for themselves.
In the beginning of email-list and newsgroups
it was very common to receiving some RTFM responses
and IMO that did good and helped us to get the
self-training through reading available material FIRST
before posting.

But nowadays our conditioned "politeness" tells us to answer
everything and thus train lazy dogs to become even more
lazy. Now even totally appropriate "have you *tried* google"
criticism is criticized. As you do, as Ben did.
And it was a complete google-link to click on plus the remark
that the forth item will contain the wanted material - and
I checked it, the 4th google reference is indead very valuable
regarding the original question.

'Please' and 'thanks' are cheap to type into a keyboard.
Learning is not that cheap.

But of course somebody will certainly identify with poor
lazy Ben if he is himself asking questions like

"Is anyone able/willing to give a brief opinion about the level of
security of bind 8 and 9? There must be a reason why SuSE ships both.
If they're equally secure it would seem to be more sensible to go with
the new version for new servers?"

Was there anyone willing to give a <whatever>, Volker?
Perhaps offlist to your "undeliverable" mail-box?

Man, you made it...

Michael

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