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From: GentooRulez (paranoiac_user_at_freenet.de)
Date: Fri Oct 18 2002 - 05:53:53 CDT

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    >> Thats not what a asked. Assuming conn-track works fine and my
    >> ip-filter decides to drop the package. When will this take place ?
    >> Before defragmenting packet or with defragmented packets,. The
    >> last case means such an exploit would work.
    >Thats more than theoretical. If you do not know where the
    >bug is (if there is one) then why making the assumption
    >that part X is safe?

    Simply because not the netfilter code was adressed to be buggy, but
    the tcp "stack" implementaion.

    >It will probably only put you into wrong feeling of security if such a
    >bug really exists.

    No, dont think so. That is why i asked that theoretical question which
    is not answered until know. Will netfilter block such kind of packets when
    a attacker tries to root my box ??? Or is a malicious packets handled
    by the kernel before netfilter comes to inspect them ???

    >Who tells that such a fragmented packet does not belong to a connection
    >at all? :) If you have a public webserver I guess its easy to have
    fragmented
    >packets for a tracked connection.

    This is another possibility to get infected, but it doesnt affect e.g. vpn
    router.

    >Anyway, its probably not necessary to discuss that if noone
    >knows any details.

    Dont think so. Its always good to talk about.

    GTIF

    Michael

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