From: Radu Voicu (suseploiesti.rdsnet.ro)
Date: Thu Apr 03 2003 - 08:15:05 CST

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You are sure that we are talking SPECIFICALLY about SuSE Professional 8.0?

Kernel
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/8.0/kernel/2.4.18-20030324/k_deflt-2
.4.18-261.i386.rpm ?!??!

If you are positive about the above 2 points, then the bet is off, indeed...

P.S. I've never said that I will quit SuSE from now on... I stick with'em
since version 5.3 ...and right now I'm installing a 8.1 route server...
so... ;)

Have a lot of fun...
Radu

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bjorn Tore Sund" <bjorntsmi.uib.no>
To: <suse-securitysuse.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [suse-security] Linux-Server is frozen after security update of
kernel

>
>
> 50 klients of five major hardware groups, with variations within
> each. 10 servers, all different, with very different hardware and
> configurations. Problems one the one machine where I have a new
> Nvidia card, problems on the two servers where I have LVM setups.
> No problem which took more than 15 minutes to resolve.
>
> Radu, you loose your bet. That's 47 kernel upgrades that went
> without problems. I for my part am still happy with SuSE, and
> my pre-order for 8.2 is now in. :)
>
> Bjørn
>
>
> On 3 Apr 2003, Ken Schneider wrote:
>
> > Compaq lt1720US laptop, no problems with kernel update. You need to make
> > sure that your /etc/sysconfig/kernel file is correct regarding the
> > bootup modules installed (for mk_initrd) and run mk_initrd && lilo.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 03:45, Radu Voicu wrote:
> > > Hi, Bob!
> > >
> > > I am sure that your intentions are good, but I can bet that NOBODY
upgraded
> > > the SuSE 8.0 default kernel k_deflt 2.4.18 without any problem...
> > >
> > > I've tried on several machines, one was a Compaq Deskpro and other was
IBM
> > > NetVista... do you think that those machines are supported by SuSE??!?
> > >
> > > I don't want to start any flames on the list, but I'm pretty pissed
off
> > > because all those machines was in production and remotely
administered...
> > > and I've trusted SuSE like always... and they dissapointed me big time
on
> > > this one...
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Radu
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bob Vickers" <bobvcs.rhul.ac.uk>
> > > To: "Eduard Avetisyan" <dich_edyahoo.com>
> > > Cc: <arjenzeilers.net>; <suse-securitysuse.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:32 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [suse-security] Linux-Server is frozen after security
update of
> > > kernel
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Eduard Avetisyan wrote:
> > > > > I'm afraid it's time to ask - on what type of machine and what
> > > > > configuration has SuSE tested the new kernel ;-) Maybe all
> > > > > switch to exactly that type of hardware in the future?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's also fair to ask the people having problems whether their
hardware
> > > > is on SuSE's supported hardware list. People can run SuSE Linux on
any
> > > > hardware they like, and they can ask for advice on appropriate
mailing
> > > > lists. But they shouldn't start whinging to SuSE unless they have
checked
> > > > the hardware is supported (maybe it is, maybe it isn't, I don't
know).
> > > >
> > > > We should also remember that the traffic on this list is heavily
biased
> > > > towards people having problems. I imagine the upgrade worked
flawlessly on
> > > > most systems.
> > > >
> > > > And one more thing: in the days before the update was released the
> > > > messages on this list were along the lines of "Why haven't you
released it
> > > > yet, it can't take that long to build a kernel?". Obviously if they
could
> > > > have a few weeks for testing they could eliminate a lot of these
problems.
> > > > But they have to strike a balance.
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > > ==============================================================
> > > > Bob Vickers R.Vickerscs.rhul.ac.uk
> > > > Dept of Computer Science, Royal Holloway, University of London
> > > > WWW: http://www.cs.rhul.ac.uk/home/bobv
> > > > Phone: +44 1784 443691
> > > >
> > > >
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> >
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