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From: Philip Chen (pchenENNOVATENETWORKS.COM)
Date: Fri May 11 2001 - 09:20:56 CDT

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    Subrat Mohanty wrote:

    > Alex!
    > That's what my question
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Mailing List [mailto:OSPFdiscuss.microsoft.com]On Behalf Of Alex
    > Zinin
    > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 10:24 PM
    > To: OSPFdiscuss.microsoft.com
    > Subject: Re: An Area problem
    >
    > Alex!
    > I understand that ASExt Lsa should not be associated with any area. But some
    > how I have to keep track of the area info so that while breaking tie
    > (16.4.1) I can decide whether the ASExt Lsa is originated from a BB Area or
    > a NBB area. Should I consider the area as the area from which I received the
    > ASE Lsa or I should consider the area as the area associated with the path
    > to the AdvRouter of the ASE Lsa? If it is the second case, then how should I
    > determine the area associated with the the ASBR or the route to ASBR?
    > Should I examine the Router Lsa of the advertising router?

    You do not use area ID from which an ASE LSA is received from for tie breaking.
    If the forwarding address for a ASE LSA is ASBR (advertising router) itself, if
    you have multiple equal cost intra-area paths to ASBR, you use the one with
    largest area ID for tie breaking. This happens when ASBR attached to more than
    one common areas as the calculating router.

    > If the ASBR lies
    > in a different area, then I might not have the Router Lsa. Also I am not
    > able examine the route to the ASBR, because by the time I do it I may not
    > have the route to the ASBR( Spf Calc might not be done).

    You should calculate intra / inter-area routes before you calculate external
    routes.

    > I understand my
    > question is pretty implementation specific, so I am trying to see all
    > possible scenarios. Can u pl. help me out?
    > Regards Subrat
    >
    > Subrat,
    >
    > First off, ASE-LSAs are not associated with a specific
    > areas, they are global to the OSPF domain. So, in your
    > example below, even if R1 receives the LSA originated
    > by R3 from R2 first, the path to the external network
    > will be the path to the originating router (or the fwd_addr
    > if present) and the path (not the LSA) will be associated
    > with the BB.
    >
    > Now, if you have more than one ASBR announcing the same
    > network, you should follow sections 16.4 and 16.4.1 of
    > the spec.
    >
    > --
    > Alex Zinin
    >
    > Thursday, May 10, 2001, 9:05:27 AM, Subrat Mohanty wrote:
    >
    > > I have a problem while breaking the tie between routes to the same
    > > destination, one thru BB Area and one thru NBB Area. I am explaining the
    > > scenario and my understanding as well.
    >
    > > +---+ A1 +---+ BBArea +---+
    > > + R2+------------+ R1+-----------+ R3+
    > > +---+ +---+ +---+
    >
    > > A1 = Area 1
    > > A2 = BB Area
    > > R2 and R3 are ASBR.
    >
    > > Let's add a static route 30.0.0.0/8 at R3. The ASExt Lsa will be flooded
    > to
    > > R1 and from R1 to R2. So all the 3 routers will be in Sync. Let's
    > switchoff
    > > R1 and restart. If R1 starts establishing adjacancy with R2 first, then R2
    > > gives all his Lsa's in it's DDP including the ASExt Lsa for 30.0.0.0 . R1
    > > will Request for 30.0.0.0 to R2 and get the ASExt LSA. Then adjacancy with
    > > R3 is being established. R3 will also mention the ASExt LSA 30.0.0.0 . But
    > > R1 will not request for the same because it has the same copy in it's
    > > database. Although the routes will be there in each guys database, the
    > area
    > > association for 30.0.0.0 in R1 is wrong. Because it learns the route from
    > > A1.
    >
    > > The problem comes when I have static route 30.0.0.0 in R2 as well as R3.
    > In
    > > that case, R1 should prefer the route thru R1 regardless of the cost of
    > the
    > > routes. If I restart R1, then if I get both the ASExtLsa from any one of
    > the
    > > router R2 or R3, the area associated with the ASExtLsa will be same. So it
    > > starts looking at the cost. What stratagy an iplementer should follow?
    > > Should he check for the Router LSA (if the adv router is in that area)or
    > the
    > > ASBR Lsa (the ABR advertising the ASBR is in that area) for the AdvRouter
    > of
    > > the ASExt Lsa 30.0.0.0 before accepting the ASExtLsa ? Or what else?
    >
    > > Regards Subrat