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From: Acee Lindem (aceeREDBACK.COM)
Date: Wed Jan 30 2002 - 11:19:59 CST

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    Moy, John wrote:

    > Vishwas-
    >
    > You have two separate ideas here, I think. First is the
    > idea to continue hitless restart regardless of topology
    > changes. I think that is a bad idea, and you can read the long
    > arguments about this in the archives. However, one of the reasons
    > I formatted the body of the grace-LSA as TLV was so that, if
    > we wanted to in the future, we could support options like this
    > (the "what, me worry?" option) in the future.
    >
    > As for detecting whether the neighbors will help, and if not, abort
    > *any* restart. This we could do. However, I don't think it's
    > worth the extra complication.

    John,

    In most cases, I think your approach will detect that there are
    neighbor(s) that will not help. When the restarting router
    does an SPF using its pre-restart router LSA, it will abort graceful
    restart if the former neighbor's router LSA does not have a back-link (at
    least this is how I implemented the inconsistency check in section
    2.2 of the draft).

    Thanks,
    Acee

    > Most likely, if the neighbors won't help
    > now, they won't help in an hour or two either (I assume that the
    > router isn't being restarted/reloaded for fun, but that there is some
    > operational reason and hence urgency for doing so). Obviously this
    > option wouldn't make any sense for unplanned outages either...
    >
    > John
    >
    >
    >>-----Original Message-----
    >>From: Manral, Vishwas [mailto:VishwasMNETPLANE.COM]
    >>Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 2:58 AM
    >>To: OSPFDISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM
    >>Subject: Re: Change to OSPF Hitless Restart?
    >>
    >>
    >>John,
    >>
    >>Just another thought.
    >>
    >>If due to some change, if the helper has a new LSA, it would
    >>prevent the
    >>restart to be graceful. I thought it may be helpful if we
    >>could provide a
    >>configurable option, whether to proceed in such a case using hitless
    >>restart, or just abort the restart process itself(and work as
    >>normal) and
    >>try hitless restart at a later stage.
    >>
    >>-Vishwas
    >>
    >>
    >