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From: Daniel Gryniewicz (dangNEXTHOP.COM)
Date: Thu Jun 20 2002 - 13:37:10 CDT

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    True, and it'll be resent forever, taking 9000 bytes of bandwidth every time.
    :( And I'll still use it in my SPF, and so the black hole will still occure.

    Daniel

    On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 11:35:20 -0700
    prashant desai <prashant_s_desaiHOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

    > that makes sense :-)
    > but the drop lsa will not be acked....never reachd ospf
    >
    > thanks
    > Prashant
    >
    >
    > >From: Daniel Gryniewicz <dangNEXTHOP.COM>
    > >Reply-To: Mailing List <OSPFDISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM>
    > >To: OSPFDISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM
    > >Subject: Re: mtu in DD exchange.
    > >Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 14:30:58 -0400
    > >
    > >So, I send you the 9000 byte packet. My IP layer thinks it's fine. Your
    > >IP
    > >layer drops it. An adjacency never forms. Or, worse yet, the adjacency
    > >formed (the HELLOs and DDs were all small enough) and then I get and flood
    > >a
    > >huge LSA from someone else. You drop it, but I assume you have it. My SPF
    > >puts a route from this LSA through you, but you don't have it, so
    > >blackhole.
    > >I *have* to know that every packet I send to you can make it. The MTU
    > >agreement assures that packets won't get dropped because of MTU mismatch.
    > >
    > >Daniel
    > >
    > >On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 11:27:52 -0700
    > >prashant desai <prashant_s_desaiHOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
    > >
    > > > exactly..the ip layer should drop the packet..why should OSPF care about
    > > > it..dont you think its the ip layers job to check mtu conformance of
    > > > incomming packets ?
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > >From: Daniel Gryniewicz <dangNEXTHOP.COM>
    > > > >Reply-To: Mailing List <OSPFDISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM>
    > > > >To: OSPFDISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM
    > > > >Subject: Re: mtu in DD exchange.
    > > > >Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 13:59:07 -0400
    > > > >
    > > > >What fragments? All OSPF (baring virtual links) traffic is only on one
    > > > >link.
    > > > >What the MTU agreement assures is that everyone on the link agrees what
    > >the
    > > > >MTU *for that link* should be. If I think the MTU is 9000, and you
    > >think
    > > > >the
    > > > >MTU is 1500, you'll silently drop all my packets. My IP layer won't
    > > > >fragment,
    > > > >because it thinks the MTU is large enough.
    > > > >
    > > > >Daniel
    > > > >
    > > > >On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:45:44 -0700
    > > > >prashant desai <prashant_s_desaiHOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > > Hi,
    > > > > > Can anyone give me a good reason why OSPF routers have to agree on
    > > > > > the MTU size during DD exchange process..
    > > > > > As OSPF runs over IP..fragmentation or reassembly should not be its
    > > > > > concern..and they will be transparently handled by the IP layer..
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Prashant
    > > > > >
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