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From: Padma Pillay-Esnault (padma_at_JUNIPER.NET)
Date: Thu Jan 30 2003 - 13:25:27 CST

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    I fully support "graceful restart"

    Padma

    >
    > I support changing "hitless" to "graceful" in the
    > OSPF draft to be consistent with the other protocol documents.
    > I'll leave the file name the same for continuity but it will be
    > "graceful restart" once it is published as an RFC. Any thoughts on
    > this? This change would be based on a discussion on the main
    > routing discussion list (see below).
    >
    >
    > -------- Original Message --------
    > Subject: Re: GR/NSF Terminology
    > Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 08:33:58 -0700
    > From: Danny McPherson <dannytcb.net>
    > Reply-To: dannytcb.net
    > To: routing-discussionietf.org
    >
    >
    > > The OSPF document you cite defines various terms, but in an
    > > OSPF-specific fashion. Furthermore, the definitions are not
    > > collected anywhere in the document but are peppered throughout it...
    > > which is fine in context but doesn't lend itself to generic use of
    > > the terms.
    >
    > Agreed.
    >
    > > Seems like there are two things we could do:
    > >
    > > First, leave the documents as they are. This is my preferred
    > > alternative. The docs are relatively well advanced in terms of
    > > specification and even deployment, and doing what would be a
    > > non-trivial update solely for the purpose of aligning terminology
    > > strikes me a being work for work's sake. This is doubly true because
    > > a major terminology change creates the risk of introducing subtle
    > > errors to the spec if one isn't careful. Apart from aesthetics, what
    > > need do you think is fulfilled by aligning the specs?
    > >
    > > Alternately, if we do want to go ahead and change the specs, then a
    > > (generic) definitions document such as you have volunteered to write
    > > seems a necessity. I'm not a fan of "framework" documents and I hope
    > > we could keep the scope of the proposed definitions document focused.
    >
    > OK, so folks don't seem to be to keen on the idea at this point.
    > Given that I'm not attached to the idea of more work "for the
    > sake of work" then I'll drop it. I believe there is room for
    > commonality but look where that's got me in PWE3 *8^/
    >
    >
    > > By the way, I think "graceful restart" has historic precedence over
    > > "hitless restart" if you want to align terms :-).
    >
    > Agreed.
    >
    > -danny
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    > Acee
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