From: Noel Butler (noel.butlerausics.net)
Date: Thu May 17 2012 - 21:18:43 CDT

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On Fri, 2012-05-18 at 03:40 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:

> Am 18.05.2012 02:51, schrieb Noel Butler:
> > List is broken, in many ways.
> >
> > Amongst many of its failures, the two current biggest is:
> >
> > 1/ This lists bounce messages are clueless they do not include the
> > reject reason
>
> which bounce-messages are you meaning?
>
> may it be you mean the stupid auto-replies caused by
> a poor list-server missing the "Precedence: bulk"
> or "Precedence: list" headers?
>

Nope, however I have brought that up before, I'm not going to blacklist
those senders since its likely through no fault of their own..
 I'm talking about the messages that oracle were unable to deliver to
us, quoting the msd ID's and the non-existant reason in their bounce
header example, which is now pointless as it does not include the MTA
error code information.

I dare say its oracles screwup, since this list seems to be have been
moved from sun to oracle and oracle just gone " lets test, well ok, we
can send a msg through, it goes out to users it must works" and thats
it, totally forgotten about, theres a reason why many dont use ezmlm,
its evil in this day and age so many far better products about.

> yes, this is really the only mailig-list out there
> causing vacation-replies if the rcpt MTA is working
> correct and no mailadmin can do anything :-(
>

maybe they can, if we can find one LOL

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