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NFR Wizards Archive: RE: FW: CISCO PIX Vulnerability

RE: FW: CISCO PIX Vulnerability

Rick Smith (rick_smithsecurecomputing.com)
Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:27:55 -0500

At 01:51 PM 6/17/98 -0700, Hal wrote:
>Are you seriously arguing for continuing to use weak crypto over better
systems?

I know it's e-mail and maybe I'm being too subtle. Or maybe I
misinterpreted irony on your part.

To recap: I interpreted your original comment as saying that it's
appropriate from a security standpoint for some applications to use shorter
key lengths. Adam seemed to disagree, and declared that all products with
shorter keys are "stupid" and shouldn't be used for anything.

I disagreed, arguing that information security is a systems question, and
not decided by a single property like key length. I also pointed out that
published reports of commercial security incidents are consistent with
this: attackers don't brute force the key, they go around it.

Naturally, longer keys are always to be preferred to shorter ones.
Unfortunately, people can only use products that really exist, not products
that some theoretician argues could exist.

Personally, I want to see as many people using crypto as possible,
regardless of how long or short the keys are. That's the only way we're
going to have the experience to know how to make longer key lengths
actually pay off with improved security. Otherwise, we've got a steel gate
and a cardboard fence.

>Gosh, I thought only NSA people argued like that.

NSA people don't argue. They just issue you the crypto. If it doesn't solve
your problem, you have to either do the job unprotected or rearrange the
job to fit their architectural straitjacket. In Desert Storm, people
sometimes had to do without, since they couldn't always fit things into the
straitjacket.

In the commercial world we ought to be able to do better than that.

The crypto prima donna act is also an NSA trademark. Let's not be priests,
let's be evangelists.

Rick.
smithsecurecomputing.com

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