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Penetration testing via shrinkware
Stout, Bill (StoutB
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Wed, 02 Sep 1998 19:22:34 -0400
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What are the opinions on the thoroughness of shrinkwrap software
penetration testing? Is today's shrinkware more capable for penetration
testing (a single machine) than a human?
I'll take one example of a tool, Internet Security Scanner. It can do a
complete external scan of the currently known vulnerabilities of a
machine or subnet. ISS is very consciensious of keeping up to date with
vulnerabilities.
Some counter-points I have are:
o The human needs to do data collection about the target through
whois, nslookup, search engines, anonymous or spoofed phone calls, etc.
o The human element still needs to select the targets, the connection
path (dial-up, X.25, Internet, hops via private links, etc), the social
engineering, the password crackers, etc.
o The human also needs to define the D.O.S. threshold of the target,
and limits on brute force efforts.
o The tests won't detect sniffers installed at the target's ISP.
Say someone wants to do penetration testing and security auditing for a
company, and use various types of shrinkware to do it. Any comments?
Bill Stout
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