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From: Jim (Jimly-core.com)
Date: Mon Jun 11 2001 - 07:33:48 CDT

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    In reading the article FINDING FENCES IN CYBERSPACE: PRIVACY AND OPEN ACCESS
    ON THE INTERNET
    by Ethan Preston. I did not see anything that makes it illegal to use nmap
    unless you are attempting to hack into someone's system unauthorized. The
    article simply addresses the legitimate issues of unauthorized access and
    destruction or altering of someone else's information or system.

    As I read it, the use of nmap as an administrative and security tool is
    allowed provided the attempted access into the system is authorized (make
    sure you get it in writing though). It is clear that the legal ramifications
    as they relate to unauthorized access into someone's system is still very
    much in the development stages of our legal system. However, I think that
    the article was geared more towards those who intend to use the tool with
    malicious intent rather then the legitimate and authorized use of such
    tools.

    In short since none of us are intending to use tools like nmap illegally.
    The continued development and use of powerful network
    administrative/security tools such as nmap, Satan and crack will continue to
    be improved and used in an open manner.

    We all know that attempting access someone's system unauthorized should be
    illegal!

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Thomas Reinke [mailto:reinkee-softinc.com]
    Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 12:20 AM
    To: nmap-hackersinsecure.org
    Subject: Re: nmap illegal to use?

    There are some pretty compelling arguments in the paper, and a hell
    of a lot of research backing it up.

    If you have a legal interest in the issue, I'd suggest taking
    a complete read through the paper.

    Some of the interesting bits (and please note these are out of
    context...you really should read the article located at
    http://grove.ufl.edu/~techlaw/vol6/Preston.html)

    "COMPUTER FRAUD, ACCESS AND NMAP:
    Most American jurisdictions have computer crime laws which include
    prohibitions on unauthorized access. ... As a threshold for criminal
    liability, "access" proves to be a tremendously porous border."

    TRANSLATING "ACCESS" INTO REAL LIFE ON THE INTERNET
    "...A court deciding whether to assign liability would first inquire
    into what technical measures were used; the court must find the
    fences in cyberspace. Next, the court must decide whether the technical
    measures were reasonable. The computer owner who failed to
    protect against banner-grabbing should not have legal recourse when
    banner grabbing identifies his operating system. A computer owner who
    used a firewall that prevented port scans but not nmap-type OS
    fingerprinting
    might establish a strong case for liability against a nmap scanner."

    Tom Brays wrote:
    >
    > Have you seen this one yet? Give me a break!
    >
    > "The Journal of Technology Law and Policy has a good article on computer
    security and privacy. If you ignore the more metaphorical crap at the
    beginning of the article, the author marches through some laws that apply to
    the Internet and shows how they apply and why his way of deciding what kind
    of access to a computer breaks the law and what kinds don't is better. (Its
    based on property and expectations of privacy.) It's interesting to see the
    computer security from a lawyer's point of view. Especially interesting are
    his claims that using nmap is illegal, despite the VC3 v. Moulton case."
    > --

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