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From: Frank Monroe (Frank.MonroeMOTIENT.COM)
Date: Sun Apr 29 2001 - 11:59:41 CDT

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    I have been attempting to implement NTLMv2 for several years now.
    Unfortunately, due to the many bugs that existed in NT 4.0 (and some
    additional ones that were created under Windows 2000) it has taken me many
    months before I was able to switch my DC's to level 5. When I finally made
    the switch to 5 I found that RAS clients could no longer authenticate to the
    domain. I opened yet another case with Microsoft support and after about
    nine months they respond and admit to the bug but say they will not be
    fixing it, even in the Whistler time frame. One of the reasons they gave is
    that NTLMv2 is no more secure than NTLMv1 because all authentication methods
    are crackable. When I asked why the RAS server in my entirely Windows 2000
    domain did not use kerberos, they gave me the same response.

    Has anyone else successfully implemented level 5 or is the addition of
    NTLMv2 and kerberos really a sham?

    Frank