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From: Toombs, Doug (dougSERVERVAULT.COM)
Date: Mon May 21 2001 - 17:05:21 CDT

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    Sean, et. al....

    At our organization, we have developed a patch management system which
    verifies that all of our client's servers are compliant with a hotfix based
    on file dates, not registry keys. For example, let's assume that a hotfix
    fixes "buggy.dll", with a new version that is dated 5/4/2001. Our patch
    management system will constantly scan all of our servers to make sure that
    "buggy.dll" is always dated 5/4/2001 or greater - if not, we will receive
    alerts that one of our systems is non-compliant on a hotfix.

    Based on your message, I ran some testing and here is what I've found:

    Test basis: a Win2k server with SP1 installed, followed by approximately 24
    post-SP1 hotfixes and six post-SP2 hotfixes.

    After installing SP2, I noticed that none of the hotfixes could be found in
    "add/remove programs". I didn't check the registry keys. However, our
    compliance checking program indicated that the system was compliant with all
    hotfixes.

    To be sure, I picked one post-SP2 hotfix at random --- MS01-013 "Windows
    2000 Event Viewer Contains Unchecked Buffer" and unpacked it. It updates
    "els.dll" to a version dated 2/14/2001. On the system I just patched with
    SP2, "els.dll" is still dated 2/14/2001 - indicating that SP2 is not
    unrolling that actual file in a hotfix, although it may be unrolling the
    registry entries or add/remove program entries.

    On a side note - I found this odd - if you attempt to install Service Pack 2
    on a system with the Print Spooler service disabled, it will tell you that
    it can not install. The specific message I received was "Cannot install the
    service pack. The Print Spooler service is not started." Now why on earth
    must I be running print spooler in order to deploy SP2??? This makes my
    deployment much more of a headache, as we have hundreds of Windows servers
    that have been hardened (i.e.: no extraneous services running).

    -Douglas Toombs
    -Senior Windows Architect
    -ServerVault.com
    -"Securing The Internet"

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Sean Kronberg [mailto:skronbergVIACK.COM]
    Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:22 PM
    To: NTBUGTRAQLISTSERV.NTBUGTRAQ.COM
    Subject: Windows 2000 SP2 uninstalls Pre-SP3 Security Patches

    I believe that all Pre_SP3 Security Patches are automatically removed by
    installing Window 2000 SP2. I've verified that the Pre-SP3 QXXXXXX are
    not listed under the following registry key:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
    \Software\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\Hotfix\Q######

    after installing SP2.

    If you do a search by Product and Service Pack at
    <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/current.asp> for Security
    Patches using:
    Product: Windows 2000 Adv. Server
    Service Pack: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2

    You'll find that MS will list a number of security patches that need to
    be installed after installing Window 2000 SP2. I had those same
    security patches installed prior to the installation of Windows 2000 SP2
    - but now I need to re-install them all?? The same goes for IIS 5.0
    patches.

    I can not confirm these findings anywhere on Microsoft's web site or in
    the Readme's, but using the registry as my guide, the Pre-SP3 patches
    have been uninstalled during the install of Windows Service Pack 2.

    Anyone else see the same problem?

    Sean Kronberg
    Network Administrator
    VIACK Corporation
    Phone: 425.605.7474
    skronbergviack.com