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From: GreyMagic Software (securityGREYMAGIC.COM)
Date: Wed May 01 2002 - 08:42:26 CDT

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    The bug was not reported sooner because we had to test it properly, on as
    many configurations as possible, this takes time since this vulnerability is
    not the only issue we're dealing with.

    When this was entered to Bugzilla we were well into the 30th in Israel.

    In our submission to Netscape we specifically said that we plan to wait 5
    days, not 5 business days, for a reply from Netscape. Is a simple reply too
    much?

    We ended up waiting 6 days, which were 5 business days. Why 5?

    According to RFP's disclosure policy:

    "The ORIGINATOR is the individual or group submitting the ISSUE."
    "All dates, times, and time zones are relative to the ORIGINATOR."
    "A work day is generally defined in respect to the ORIGINATOR."

    Since the ORIGINATOR is in Israel, Sunday is a business day like any other.

    We never expected an immediate "payoff", all we asked for was a little
    acknowledgement that Netscape received our post and that it is being
    handled. After 6 days, longer than the time we gave them to respond, we went
    public.

            - GMS

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Windows NTBugtraq Mailing List
    [mailto:NTBUGTRAQLISTSERV.NTBUGTRAQ.COM]On Behalf Of Sam Greenfield
    Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 02:14
    To: NTBUGTRAQLISTSERV.NTBUGTRAQ.COM
    Subject: Re: Reading local files in Netscape 6 and Mozilla (GM#001-NS)

    GreyMagic Software writes:
    > Discovery date: 30 Mar 2002.
    [...]
    > Netscape was contacted on 24 Apr 2002 through a form on their web
    > site and through email to securitynetscape.com and
    > securenetscape.com. They did not bother to respond AT ALL, and we
    > think we know why.

    It seems a bit irresponsible to report a bug in a product to the
    vendor almost one calendar month after discovering a security
    hole. Is there any reason why GreyMagic decided not to report this
    bug sooner?

    For what it's worth, according to the Bugzilla database, this was
    entered as a bug in the underlying Mozilla code on April 29, the third
    business day after GreyMagic reported the bug.

    For full details, see
    http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141061 (When it was
    created, the bug report was marked "Security-Sensitive" due to the
    fact that this was a security issue.) The bug is marked as a
    critical, high severity bug, and a fix is desired for the first full release
    of Mozilla.

    > Users of Netscape Navigator should move to a better performing, less
    > buggy browser.

    What browser GreyMagic does recommend?

    > By completely disregarding our post Netscape has earned themselves a
    $1000
    > and lost any credibility they might have had. The money is
    irrelevant, but
    > using such a con to attract researchers into disclosing bugs to
    Netscape is
    > extremely unprofessional.

    I'm also a little surprised that GreyMagic expected an immediate
    response and an immediate payoff. It has only been four business days
    since they reported this bug to Netscape.

                                                                    Sam
    Greenfield

    n.b. I have no affiliation with the Mozilla projects--all of my
    information is gleaned from the public Bugzilla website.