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From: Peter Galbavy (peter.galbavyknowledge.com)
Date: Mon Feb 05 2001 - 10:50:13 CST

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    > Soft Updates use magically delicious write ordering to provide the same
    kind of
    > metadata integrity protection as a journaling filesystem, but without any
    > changes to the underlying filesystem structure. Soft Update support is
    pretty
    > stable in OpenBSD 2.8. As long as

    With the greatest of respect, let me refer the gentlemen to the word
    "bollocks".

    Sorry, I felt like being frivolous. In reality, softupdates to not provide
    the most important part of a journaling file system, next to ordered writes,
    and that is zero-integrity checking at boot.

    One of the major benefits, especially as file systems are getting into the
    terabyte ranges now, is that if there is some catastophic failure (outside
    the file system code) like power or memory fault, then the file system will
    come back clean very quickly - with a log of the writes that can be applied
    in order *if* they are marked as complete.

    Maybe I am misunderstanding journaling file systems, but those are the two
    features that I expect to see (fast writes and not fsck).

    Peter