At 01:58 PM 3/5/2001, Joerg Fritsch wrote:

god this guys a complete moron.

>Actually I'm using M$Outlook because I do not feel obliged to any OS (even
>Unix) and at home I'm using a G4 Mac with M$Outlook. I'm using no
>spellchecking at all. I try to focus on what I really need --Just because
>some peole were wondering.
>
>I can make a list what I do not like about qmail:
>- it comes with an initscript for starting and stopping and because of
>it's modular architecture it starts several processess. However till now I
>have never seen a successful restart. There might be some zombies and qmail
>would not come up again until you got rid of them.

Never seen a successful restart? ever hear of life with qmail? did you
ever read it? it is THE source for setting up qmail - even DJB recommends
it. get it at www.lifewithqmail.org

>- if you are debugging your environment, you can not simply look into the
>queue and check if a special (Test)eMail is sitting there; the eMail is
>split into parts (bits & pieces) and that makes life kinda hard. Even the
>queue is not a plain directory where all the eMails are sitting.

the emails are NOT split into different pieces their one file with the file
name based on the inode number (and maybe mktime). your confusing it with
sendmale (:-)). send mail breaks up the body and the header into two
different files. you haven't looked too much at the way qmail works, i can
tell.

>- Since about one year I have qMail in productive use, delivering mail for
>more than 2400 (local) domains. You need entries in the rcpthosts and
>virtualdomains. However, every now and then qMail simply forgets (without
>having undergone a change) very few entries of the rcpthosts or
>morercpthosts. Then, the eMail is rejected and the customer is very angry,
>you know.

your install is broken. ( read the documentation )

>- You should only put about 50 entries in the rcpthosts, for more entries
>you need to make a morercpthosts. I never got rid of the impression that
>qMail was written ... originally planing no more than 50 (local) domains.

qmail was written to be a replacement for sendmale(:-)). i believe that
you need to compile the morercpthosts into a cdb file. any documentation
that you look at should tell you. your install is broken. ( read the
documentation )

>- When using qMail with a very recent release of MySQL, the connection to
>MySQL can "suffer" that much, so that qMail simply delivers mail into
>nowhere without any entry in the Errorlog. Mails go missing.

your install is broken. ( read the documentation )

>- If you only need a mailrelay, qMail is way harder to configure than
>sendmail.

read LFQ (lifewithqmail) why is sendmale harder to configure then qmail
for open relaying???? thats right 9 out of 10 spammers prefer sendmail to
qmail!...over 90% of sites on ORBS run sendmale.....and thier
blacklisted...hrm......

>- I have never experienced these problems with sendmail.

you haven't looked at qmail. sure sendmale is great for admins that don't
have anything better to do then upgrade sendmale every two days. I bet
that you run bind too? ah - yes. old, large programs that have more bugs
then a cheap whore and that was written 20 years ago. it seems that

>Well, that is a start ... I'm sure I can find more. With the dnscache;
>I had it running on AIX some time ago. The only thing I remeber, that from
>every single db- File it created bits and pieces again which didn't make
>life easier.

it seems to me that you either really have your head wayyyyyy up your ass
or you can't read documentation. if you don't know what your talking about
join the mailing list or read about it. you seem to have done neither. if
your going to be a total too please post to the total-tool-obsd list. :-)

until next flame-

~kurth

>--Joerg
>
>
>am 05.03.2001 8:50 Uhr schrieb Camiel Dobbelaar unter dobbexs4all.nl:
>
> >
> > Very close? You do not even remember the name correctly... it's dnscache.
> >
> > DJBware takes some getting used to. It can be very unforgiving if you
> > don't follow the documentation to the letter.
> >
> > What exactly did you not like? Your unqualified statement is not very
> > helpful.
> >
> > --
> > Cam
> >
> > PS. I may be biased: I maintain the ports for qmail and djbdns.
> >
> > On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Joerg Fritsch wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have taken a very close look at qMail and CacheDNS alreday (it's
> from the
> >> same person basically) even in produtive use. Al I can tell people:
> It's an
> >> absolute nightmare. Sorry.
> >> --Joerg
> >
> >

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